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Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:54 pm to Tiger1242
1 human day = 100 Octopi years. I thought everyone knew this.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:37 pm to La Place Mike
Rats are pretty damn smart and they don’t live very long either.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:57 am to CatfishJohn
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I stopped eating octopus after watching My Octopus Teacher and reading about them. Crazy fricking smart and have high IQ emotions.
frick that. Octopus is delicious.
Plus, with editing they can make animals look more smart and reactive than they really are. Just like on reality tv shows.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:43 am to CatfishJohn
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I stopped eating octopus after watching My Octopus Teacher and reading about them.
You probably shouldn't watch Chicken Run then.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:52 am to Dawg7730
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So shouldn’t this make you question if evolution is true? Think critically.
OR, one could learn the evolutionary definition of "fitness" which is the number of copies of ones genes that you put in the next generation. That equation has no time scale. So if it takes 1 day, 1 year or 1 century, the equation doesn't care so long as it's maximized at the end. Without doing a deep dive into octopi life cycles, a short life cycle apparently optimizes the equation.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 6:10 am to Tiger1242
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From an evolutionary standpoint point why develop so many traits when you live such a short life?
'cause they noted what happened to the Homo Erectus specie when they started living a long time.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:20 am to nealnan8
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You probably shouldn't watch Chicken Run then.
I slaughter chickens myself sometimes. Dumb arse animals.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:35 am to Tiger1242
quote:Evolution does not favor the organism; it favors the species.
It makes no sense that this animal is so smart and has so many skills like camouflage and a million other crazy things, but lives such a short life. From an evolutionary standpoint point why develop so many traits when you live such a short life?
Shorter life spans mean more genetic diversity in a shorter amount of time. Greater genetic diversity in less time means greater likelihood to develop more and better skills like intelligence, camouflage, and a million other crazy things. The more and greater skills mean that the species can better adapt to its ecosystem and changes in the ecosystem. The more and greater skills that allow the species to better adapt to the changes in the ecosystem get passed along.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:41 am to BengalShark
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That’s like who decided the alphabet was in alphabetical order?
"Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?"
Steven Wright
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:43 am to Tiger1242
Be thankful, if they lived as long as us they'd be running this joint
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:44 am to Tiger1242
quote:A slight exaggeration….
this animal is so smart and has so many skills like camouflage and a million other crazy things
It’s like saying Owlie is a great person because of his hair and a million other things.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 7:45 am
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:11 am to BengalShark
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That’s like who decided the alphabet was in alphabetical order?
I confess, that was me!!
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:43 am to halleburton
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How many pots have you smoken?
ALL the pots!
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:58 am to HDAU
If they lived any longer, they would take over the world.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:59 am to Tiger1242
Speaking of octopus, recommend reading Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt. Marcellus is great.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:07 am to Tiger1242
They do have a lot of crazy skills but not all the necessary ones.
For example, a quick google search says they starve while protecting their eggs. Then it says they reproduce once and it dies. So maybe they are still on the upswing of evolution. They evolved in how to survive short term, next step is long term.
Give it another 10 million years and lets revisit
EDIT: It also says, after further reading, that the Live Fast and Die Young method is the sole reason that they can evolve much faster.
For example, a quick google search says they starve while protecting their eggs. Then it says they reproduce once and it dies. So maybe they are still on the upswing of evolution. They evolved in how to survive short term, next step is long term.
Give it another 10 million years and lets revisit
EDIT: It also says, after further reading, that the Live Fast and Die Young method is the sole reason that they can evolve much faster.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:08 am to Tiger1242
If you think about it in a more complete way, most organisms - including the octopus - never make it close to one year. They lay hundreds of thousands of eggs and a lucky few of those will survive to adulthood or die of natural causes.
Nature is a cruel numbers game. Most of the numbers get eaten soon or quickly perish in some other fashion. Humans are just an outlier.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:12 am to Tiger1242
Because we eat them and they are delicious with garlic butter.
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