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re: Why is live music so overrated?
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:11 am to TackySweater
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:11 am to TackySweater
OP is one of those that records the entire show on their phone instead of actually watching and enjoying it.
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Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:13 am to TackySweater
Life is nothing more than a series of events along the way to our death….why care about what some people enjoy.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:16 am to TackySweater
It isn’t really. A lot of people enjoy love music even if it’s just a background thing. YMMV.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:22 am to UptownJoeBrown
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I hate how loud they are. I’ve always thought this even in my 20s. Loud doesn’t equal good. Maybe plebeians think this way but not me.
Agree . . . Now get off my lawn!
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:26 am to TackySweater
Cover bands are usually mediocre (occasionally exceptional), and you’re getting in without a cover. Cover bands always bring in a massive quantity of milfs and cougars, and the average age in the bar will be over 40 (unless you’re in Tigerland). The band is just a replacement for a jukebox, so the music is just background noise for your socializing. Find your milf of choice during the freeze, spin her around during Brown Eyed girl, and seal the deal during Tennessee Whiskey.
Original local bands are a total crapshoot. They’re usually great or terrible with zero in-between. The cover charges are low, but usually, the bar is barely half full, 80% sweaty dudes, and the only women there are those weird dudes’ girlfriends. The odds of meeting a single girl at a local original band show are pretty low. The odds of getting spin-kicked by that one a-hole doing karate in the pit is VERY high. All of the socializing is done over cigarettes in the parking lot while the bands load up their gear.
Original touring bands are a lot of fun, but the ticket prices can be exorbitant. Demographics of the crowd vary by act, but there tends to be a decent gender split. It’s fun when everyone knows all the words, and you’re just a part of this big crowd that loves the same thing and is in the moment together.
Original local bands are a total crapshoot. They’re usually great or terrible with zero in-between. The cover charges are low, but usually, the bar is barely half full, 80% sweaty dudes, and the only women there are those weird dudes’ girlfriends. The odds of meeting a single girl at a local original band show are pretty low. The odds of getting spin-kicked by that one a-hole doing karate in the pit is VERY high. All of the socializing is done over cigarettes in the parking lot while the bands load up their gear.
Original touring bands are a lot of fun, but the ticket prices can be exorbitant. Demographics of the crowd vary by act, but there tends to be a decent gender split. It’s fun when everyone knows all the words, and you’re just a part of this big crowd that loves the same thing and is in the moment together.
This post was edited on 1/25/25 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:26 am to TackySweater
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TackySweater
What are your hobbies?
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:26 am to TackySweater
Live music is the default state. Recorded music has only been around ~150 years. You're just incapable of having a good time. Or a troll.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:29 am to TackySweater
Depends on the live music.
I went to a flaming lips show with my daughter last April at the Saenger, and while I love the flaming lips, they are far from my favorite band, but that show was life changing. It was absolutely amazing.
Ever see tool live? What about Radiohead? Both shows are pretty fricking fantastic, in two entirely different ways.
Live music, good live music is underrated, if anything.
I went to a flaming lips show with my daughter last April at the Saenger, and while I love the flaming lips, they are far from my favorite band, but that show was life changing. It was absolutely amazing.
Ever see tool live? What about Radiohead? Both shows are pretty fricking fantastic, in two entirely different ways.
Live music, good live music is underrated, if anything.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:31 am to kingbob
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Cover bands are usually mediocre
Yet can still be entertaining.
Used to be a cover band I loved that was made up of BLM firefighters. They jumped from planes in summer, played music all winter.
Lot of fun and talented.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:32 am to TackySweater
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Why is live music so overrated?
Some are overrated and some underrated. Depends on the band.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:33 am to TackySweater
Wow you sound fun. Do you also hate happy hour specials? Loathe special events? Can't stand pub crawls???
Don't go to places that have live music... when me and the wife are out it's usually nice...adds something extra...when we're done w it just move to the next place
Don't go to places that have live music... when me and the wife are out it's usually nice...adds something extra...when we're done w it just move to the next place
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:33 am to TackySweater
You’re listening to the wrong music.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:34 am to Breesus
quote:In literally every way.
In what way is live music overrated?
It’s objectively somewhere between decently entertaining to a mind numbingly terrible time.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:37 am to TackySweater
Shitty bands are shitty bands.
The question is why have you been watching so many shitty bands?
The question is why have you been watching so many shitty bands?
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yet can still be entertaining.
Absolutely. When you find a good one, it’s pretty great. However, most bars and bar patrons don’t GAF. I played in or ran sound for mediocre to above average cover bands for years. The base rate pay is literally the same now that it was 40 years ago. A handful of popular cover bands make way more, but the overwhelming majority make pretty close to that base rate.
My biggest issue was how all the area cover bands played some combination of the same 80 or so songs. It got really repetitive.
This post was edited on 1/25/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:38 am to kingbob
In good music cities live music is generally awesome and easy to find. But outside of big shows and touring acts, the best live music won't be in the most popular spots, and often the best way to find it is to find the acts local musicians go see when they don't have gigs.
I definitely have a New Orleans bias, but in the City you can find great live shows every night of week in a variety of genres, all while never stepping foot in the French Quarter, although there are a good spots there too.
I definitely have a New Orleans bias, but in the City you can find great live shows every night of week in a variety of genres, all while never stepping foot in the French Quarter, although there are a good spots there too.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:40 am to kingbob
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My biggest issue was how all the area cover bands played some combination of the same 80 or so songs
Pretty much. I think they appeal more to older folks myself who are more into classic rock/country.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:43 am to NOLALGD
New Orleans is worth having a bias for, especially if you love funk, r&b, and jazz. So many great acts on Frenchman Street any given night. I have several friends who make a living in that scene. They make a fraction of what they could make literally anywhere else, though. Louisiana has such a glut of musicians that there’s little appreciation for them and even less pay. As soon as we leave the state, people throw money at us, it’s unreal.
I don’t love the rock scene in New Orleans, though. It’s either indecipherable crust punks, washed up 80’s cover bands, or a bunch of sweaty middle aged metal dudes all trying to out-Acid Bath or out-Pantera one-another.
I don’t love the rock scene in New Orleans, though. It’s either indecipherable crust punks, washed up 80’s cover bands, or a bunch of sweaty middle aged metal dudes all trying to out-Acid Bath or out-Pantera one-another.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:45 am to TackySweater
Going to see a band I enjoy is always a great time.
The randos that show up at bars to play cover songs? I’m usually closing my tab and finding somewhere else to go.
The randos that show up at bars to play cover songs? I’m usually closing my tab and finding somewhere else to go.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:47 am to TackySweater
MATH....
let me tell coming from a bar owner.
Customers want something to do, see, be, whatever... Jukebox, Darts.. Pool...
If you had karaoke... You get 1 guy and maybe his Girlfriend if your lucky.
So now your bar has 2 people in it... another person walks in and sees only two people, it looks dead.. They think its no fun and they don;t come in or stay.
You book a band of say 5 people... And they bring their girlfriends... Now you got 10 people in your bar and you don't look so dead.. Something is going on and looking fun.. People are more prone to stay.
add to the fact that the band brings at least 2 dancing groupies and 2 old folks that just sit and listen to the band.
Now you got 14 people in your bar. add a sound guy... 15...
Now you at least look busy and fun.
I've booked bands that suck, but throw a party and pack the house... I've booked bands that were the most outstanding musicians you ever saw and they didn't bring a freakin soul.
But I can tell you this.. If anybody reading this ever wants to start a bar and book bands.
Bands and musicians have some kind of attitude that they think that are really special.. and you should pay them a guaranteed amount of money because they learned to be a musician...
Let me tell ya.. Playing a guitar is like riding a motorcycle.. It's fun as hell. You get to do shots, smoke dope.. Make music with your buddies... It's a blast for them... Just walk in with a guitar and play.. Especially at jams.. and they get you money and leave.
If a band doesn;t pack the house they blame the bar and not themselves.
The bar cannot afford to take money out of it's register to pay them. The bar will go broke. Plus the bar is paying sales taxes on that money as well as Ascap and BMI, staff, electric, insurance etc... Running a bar is a brutal business... and you wonder why you see bars open ,and shutdown over and over and over again.
The only way for a bar/tavern etc to survive is if the entire city unites and every bar charges a cover, and they pay the band exactly what they bring in.
There are way more things I could say but I am in a hurry this morning.
let me tell coming from a bar owner.
Customers want something to do, see, be, whatever... Jukebox, Darts.. Pool...
If you had karaoke... You get 1 guy and maybe his Girlfriend if your lucky.
So now your bar has 2 people in it... another person walks in and sees only two people, it looks dead.. They think its no fun and they don;t come in or stay.
You book a band of say 5 people... And they bring their girlfriends... Now you got 10 people in your bar and you don't look so dead.. Something is going on and looking fun.. People are more prone to stay.
add to the fact that the band brings at least 2 dancing groupies and 2 old folks that just sit and listen to the band.
Now you got 14 people in your bar. add a sound guy... 15...
Now you at least look busy and fun.
I've booked bands that suck, but throw a party and pack the house... I've booked bands that were the most outstanding musicians you ever saw and they didn't bring a freakin soul.
But I can tell you this.. If anybody reading this ever wants to start a bar and book bands.
Bands and musicians have some kind of attitude that they think that are really special.. and you should pay them a guaranteed amount of money because they learned to be a musician...
Let me tell ya.. Playing a guitar is like riding a motorcycle.. It's fun as hell. You get to do shots, smoke dope.. Make music with your buddies... It's a blast for them... Just walk in with a guitar and play.. Especially at jams.. and they get you money and leave.
If a band doesn;t pack the house they blame the bar and not themselves.
The bar cannot afford to take money out of it's register to pay them. The bar will go broke. Plus the bar is paying sales taxes on that money as well as Ascap and BMI, staff, electric, insurance etc... Running a bar is a brutal business... and you wonder why you see bars open ,and shutdown over and over and over again.
The only way for a bar/tavern etc to survive is if the entire city unites and every bar charges a cover, and they pay the band exactly what they bring in.
There are way more things I could say but I am in a hurry this morning.
This post was edited on 1/25/25 at 9:57 am
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