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re: Why isn't Lake Charles a lot bigger than it is?

Posted on 1/12/26 at 6:45 am to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 6:45 am to
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You're an idiot. I live in Lake Charles. It's a country town. It's not bad. I like it


Awesome. I’m happy for you.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19444 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 6:46 am to
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Because Lake Charles and Beaumont are armpits of America.


Anyone who drives from Lafayette to Houston that doesn’t admit that this stretch looks run down, dirty, smelly, etc. they are liars and I will say it to their face.

You’ve been used by the Houston folks for decades now. Accept it.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 6:47 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23382 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 6:48 am to
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The first few years when Spook was actively involved they had a great mix of Rock, Austin country and sprinkled with a little South American Jazz. It came on air July 4th 1976 with Jimi Hendrix rendition of the Star Spangled Banner.


It's the station on the radio where I heard Electron Cold by Sea Level.



Also, they played the entire song Starship Trooper by Yes. 9:29.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 7:01 am
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19444 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 6:49 am to
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Houston isn't all of those things? Tell me it ain't so.


Where do you live? Downtown? Katy? Cypress? Spring? Deer park? Pearland? bridgeland? Woodlands?

Most of those don’t flood like lake Charles.

I didn’t even have water in my yard for Harvey.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 6:50 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14985 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 7:54 am to
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Where do you live? Downtown? Katy? Cypress? Spring? Deer park? Pearland? bridgeland? Woodlands?


I did live in Memorial inside Beltway 8. I definitely would have flooded in Harvey. Growing up in Lake Chuck, never flooded unless living on the Calcasieu River north or crossing Bank St, which is designed to act as drainage and low point at the start of Piton Coulee at 7th St.

Comparing Woodlands is like Longville well north of Lake Chuck.

You are not comparing apples to apples. Storm Surge stops at ridges below Lake Charles.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19444 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:08 am to
I get it but in the Houston world all those suburbs house the people on this site so that’s why I’m putting them on the list.

I hate when people start to talk shite about flooding etc when you personally don’t live in a flood zone and never have flooded.

They use this argument to justify whatever it is they want. In this case it’s moving to Houston lol.

There are thousands of these excuses out there. I’ve heard them all. None of the people who made them are super successful. They have done well in their industries but would’ve done light years better in Houston since 2010. Their kids also suffered because Louisianas education system is very very bad.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14985 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:25 am to
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There are thousands of these excuses out there. I’ve heard them all. None of the people who made them are super successful. They have done well in their industries but would’ve done light years better in Houston since 2010. Their kids also suffered because Louisianas education system is very very bad.


Private schools were the first schools in Louisiana, even Lake Charles.. Lake Charles High School was a city owned school until the mid 1960's, and as good as any Texas school public or private. At least into the 1980's private school tuition was less than TX property taxes. Some rural schools did nothing but color and play with clay in the first grade, no ABC's, no arithmetic.

In the early 1980's Port Arthur, Nederland and Beaumont public schools weren't all that and a bag of chips. Spring Branch ISD was damned good in Houston. What my kids had was a school with very supportive parents of teachers. The PTA held fundraisers and gave bonuses for 1st and 2nd place Teacher of the year cash bonus. If memory serves me correctly it was $10,000 bonus for teacher of the year at Frostwood elementary. I would say at least 1/3 of the dads had come from ranches and farms gone to college and became execs of oil companies or conglomerates.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14985 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:49 pm to
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This is the large majority of their educated once graduated.


Even graduated just from high school. They didn't have to work so didn't. Not all of them maintained their cash cow source either.

A friend bailed out his sister and his brother by buying out their share of the tax escaping trust. HIs sister was in Houston living it up in society. His brother making bad biz and personal decisions in Sausalito and San Francisco after obtaining more degrees than a rectal thermometer in finance, business, and psychology in the US, England and Switzerland. He remained because of love on duck hunting and fishing. He had cousins who moved to NOLA to be in society and never did anything else after high school except maybe a year of college.

None of the leading families had a drop of Cajun blood in them. Galveston and Houston were built with wood from their timber holdings and sawmills.. This isn't counting marsh and prairie rice farm/ranch holdings all of which had oil.

The head of the TX GOP in the early/mid 1960's, Albert Bel "Ab" Fay though from New Orleans, much of his money came from the Bel family holdings of over 100,000 acres, with timber, cattle, rice, oil and gas, plus his own investments. The Bel family was Danish/Dutch.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37447 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:55 pm to
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I get it but in the Houston world all those suburbs house the people on this site so that’s why I’m putting them on the list.

I hate when people start to talk shite about flooding etc when you personally don’t live in a flood zone and never have flooded.

They use this argument to justify whatever it is they want. In this case it’s moving to Houston lol.

There are thousands of these excuses out there. I’ve heard them all. None of the people who made them are super successful. They have done well in their industries but would’ve done light years better in Houston since 2010. Their kids also suffered because Louisianas education system is very very bad.


imo the houston burbs are awesome and in another life I would have completed my move to houston in 2018 but sometimes things happen

but I would not have been any more successful there. about the same and i would not be able to spend nearly the time with my kids as I do now just due to commute times.

also my private school+state taxes+property tax in LA was essentially a wash vs property tax in the areas we were looking at.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14985 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:07 pm to
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Anyone who drives from Lafayette to Houston that doesn’t admit that this stretch looks run down, dirty, smelly, etc. they are liars and I will say it to their face.


Beaumont was extremely well kept until the 1980s oil price collapse. One school district, South Park, was loaded with cash with very low property tax rates. Most of the industries were there. Then people began moving out of the middle class blue collar area. Houston was more diversified so weathered the storm.

If you were around before 1980, Laffy was always jealous of Lake Chuck to the Nth degree especially before 1970. I used to hear it all the time living in Lake Chuck with all my relatives in Laffy. "Lake Chuck high schools get the best athletes because they recruit and their dads get good jobs at the plants." This came from relatives who owned successful oil field services businesses in Laffy, drilling fluids and fabrication companies.
Posted by Texas Tea 123
Member since Sep 2017
306 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:12 pm to
Because the only way you can financially thrive in LC is being from family money.

Generally speaking, and of course there are outliers (a doctor here, a lawyer there, a business owner, etc), but a college grad simply cannot make that much money there on your own, there's just not enough going on. And that's the way they like it!
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1995 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:12 pm to
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but I would not have been any more successful there.


Not from Lake Charles but I couldn't move up in my career field in Louisiana and ended up having to move to Houston to get a promotion. Nepotism is on a whole other level there.

I know the whole "shite on Louisiana" stuff can get get annoying on this site but there's a lot of truth to some of it.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23382 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:16 pm to
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Anyone who drives from Lafayette to Houston that doesn’t admit that this stretch looks run down, dirty, smelly, etc. they are liars and I will say it to their face.

I live close to Tyler, Texas. There are 100K people living within the city and perhaps another 50 to 75 in the surrounding area. It was very much an oil town until the early 2000s. At one time a number of large companies had offices here such as Shell and Exxon. I retired to the area in 2015 having lived here before. I bought a lot on one of the lakes and built my home. But anyway, it was a loss as the oil companies pulled out. There is some industry here with a refinery and Trane company that builds Trane and American Standard AC units. But, in the time I've been here it has grown into a regional medical center. And three or four years ago the UT system started building a medical school with the purpose being to build the school in a rural area and to train physicians for that. I can't understand why neither Lake Charles or Lafayette have moved to do something similar. It may have something to do with the LSU system and the UL system. IDK. But this are is growing like crazy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471788 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:22 pm to
Lafayette has tried to become a major medical hub, but they'll never get something like a (public) medical school...and they would have the meltdown of all meltdowns if you tried to put any sort of "rural" training there, due to the implication.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23382 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:29 pm to
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Lafayette has tried to become a major medical hub, but they'll never get something like a (public) medical school...and they would have the meltdown of all meltdowns if you tried to put any sort of "rural" training there, due to the implication.


Whomever graduates from UT Tyler med school can move to the top of the food chain with the right residency. Texas has their shite together so much more than Louisiana. There is an Osteopathic med school at Sam Houston in Huntsville and at North Texas in Denton. Louisiana has no visionaries.
But Texas decided that they wanted to put medical schools in smaller cities. You can say Tyler is rural but there are two huge hospitals here and people come to these from around the NE quarter of the state up the DFW.
There is no reason that a med school can't be built in Lafayette. Lake Charles is a different story as it doesn't have a large university. While ULL is not a large university, it is considerable larger than McNeese.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1995 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 5:50 pm to
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There is no reason that a med school can't be built in Lafayette


They're trying. There is am LSU residency training center at Oschner LGMC campus. From what I hear, ULL has inquired about starting one but I highly doubt the state will start a new university health system to do it. It will most likely have to be another LSUHSC location. There's a new Osteopathic at ULM, not sure how that's going.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
633 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:02 pm to
It’s a pretty one note economy, overall. Plus being so close to Texas it’s really easy to just give up and move to Houston if you want to do anything with your life other than work at a plant. All that said, it’s managed to remain a fairly decent place by LA standards. Unremarkable, but decent.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 8:03 pm
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12625 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Anyone who drives from Lafayette to Houston that doesn’t admit that this stretch looks run down, dirty, smelly, etc. they are liars and I will say it to their face.


Get off I-10 and .look around. I’ve lived in both and LC has its perks. Hou isn’t all that by any means they both have their ups and downs. If you judge LC by diving through then go back to the poli board and spew your BS there.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12625 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:44 pm to
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work at a plant


Guess what. You live in an oil and gas economic region. Wtf
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
2131 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:46 pm to
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There is no reason that a med school can't be built in Lafayette

Oh gawd, not this shat again. The state doesn’t need a 3rd med school. ULL want a law school now too?
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