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re: Will the millennials be a lost generation?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:40 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:40 am to GetCocky11
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:41 am to TigerintheNO
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How did generation X skate by?
We learned just enough from our Great Gen grandparents. And they generally told us that our parents sucked & not to listen to them.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:41 am to More beer please
quote:Most of this is spot on. Boomers complain about millenials not getting jobs and moving back in with parents, but the old frickers won't retire. It's like they never heard of cause and effect.
Every job requires experience which is impossible to get when such few positions are available. Boomers are refusing to retire because they know what lies ahead. This leaves millennials standing around with degrees for positions that no one will give them a chance to start because there are older boomers with experience already.
Now, some companies don't mind laying off old workers and replacing them with lower salary young workers with better computer skills. But the boomers cry about age discrimination and sue (... Get this!!!) to get THEIR JOBS BACK!!! Wtf?!?
Get a hobby, get a life, do something besides work. fricking retire already.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:41 am to LSU1NSEC
I though this was interesting
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:42 am to More beer please
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Every job requires experience which is impossible to get when such few positions are available. Boomers are refusing to retire because they know what lies ahead. This leaves millennials standing around with degrees for positions that no one will give them a chance to start because there are older boomers with experience already.
I sort of agree with this. However, most of those boomers didn't start out at the level they are today. That's my biggest gripe about Millennials right now. Not many of them are willing to take anything entry level and work their way up. They mostly think they should just be handed the keys to a job that someone has been doing for 20 years. That's just not how the world works. At the end of the Spring semester I had one intern tell me that companies better get on board because his generation is the most educated ever so people better start paying them because they're education gives them options. I told him that's nice but let me know how the job hunt goes when all of those educated Millennials are filling out the same secretarial applications.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:44 am to TDsngumbo
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Nobody's holding a gun to their heads forcing them to borrow every cent they borrow just because they can for school.
So you're advocating not going to college, I get it. Plenty of blue collar jobs that pay more than degreed jobs.
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Take a look around the roadways today - the vast majority of cars and trucks nicer than yours are driven by millennials. They focus too much on the "cheap" monthly cost rather than the overall cost. This drives up their debt, restraining the majority of their monthly income. Forcing them to rent instead of buy a home.
That's a big stretch. How much do you think people spend on their car note? How much is rent in BR/NOLA ATM? Maybe 700-1200/month? You really think the car note is displacing that spending?
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They rent way more than any other generation does. They're throwing their money away on something they'll never call their own. Many of them are renting because they've made stupid decisions earlier in their life (such as borrowing entirely too much, whether for school, cars, retail stores, etc.). They can't afford to buy a home and start a family in a home of their own.
First you criticize borrowing too much, then say they aren't borrowing enough... Which is it? Also, millenials didn't set the astronomical tutition prices. Also, how is getting an engineering degree, a medical degree, an accounting degree a 'stupid decision'? I think you could better direct your criticism at what kids are studying, not how much it costs. The ROI is vastly different dependant on degree.
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So many of them are moving back in with their parents as well. This further deteriorates the economy since they're literally contributing nothing to society in many, many of those cases. It's very likely that the reason they moved back in with parents is because they don't have a job, due to their habits. This generation has no job-hunting skills whatsoever. Trust me, I see their resume's and cover letters (if they actually submit one) all the time. It's not hard at all to stick out above the rest in this generation. All they have to do is simply misspell only a few words on their resume and submit a one-paragraph cover letter and they're immediately standing out. It's very pathetic, really.
This is dumb. Working a full time big boy job and living at home can save oodles of money. I know a millenial couple- one an engineer and the other a lawyer living with their parents. They are saving over $4.5k/month to pay off law school loans and save for a very big down payment on a house. According to your rant, they contribute nothing to society and are "doomed". Would it make you happier to pay off someone else's mortgage in rent in the meantime?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:45 am to Darth_Vader
I don't know about you fellow gen-x'ers but I feel like the luckiest generation.
We got to experience growing up without the internet and our heads buried in a smartphone 24/7. All this technology is still "magic" to many of us, and while we appreciate and know how to use it (unlike boomers), we aren't tethered to it like a lifeline.
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We got to experience growing up without the internet and our heads buried in a smartphone 24/7. All this technology is still "magic" to many of us, and while we appreciate and know how to use it (unlike boomers), we aren't tethered to it like a lifeline.
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:45 am to MightyYat
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That's my biggest gripe about Millennials right now. Not many of them are willing to take anything entry level and work their way up. They mostly think they should just be handed the keys to a job that someone has been doing for 20 years.
I know it is an anecdotal counterargument, but I've rarely met someone who shares this mindset in the millennial generation.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:45 am to Esquire
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Want to guess when Obama was born?
I can play that game too:
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In 2011 "The Generation X Report" (based on annual surveys used in the Longitudinal Study of today's adults) found Gen Xers, defined in the report as people born between 1961 and 1981
Sorry but Obama is not a baby boomer, saying so is absurd.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:46 am to MightyYat
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I told him that's nice but let me know how the job hunt goes when all of those educated Millennials are filling out the same secretarial applications.
That is what most have to do now. The job market sucks balls.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:47 am to GetCocky11
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It helps when you were in your 20s and 30s during the economy of the 1990s compared to the 2010s.
When many of us entered the workforce there was a nasty recession going on. Nobody handed us anything nor did we feel entitled to anything. We faced problems and struggles like all generations do when they are just getting started. My first job when I came off active duty paid a whopping $5.50 and I was damn glad to have it. I never stopped to blame any of my problems on anyone, much less an entire generation, that came before me. I just went to work, made do with what I had, and now over 20 years later I'm living a damn good life where I can afford to give me and my family a good comfortable life where we have and do most of what we want. It took time and sacrifice of going without things, but I did it.
Perhaps instead of sitting around feeling sorry for yourselves and blaming everyone else for all the problems y'all face you should understand that life's not fair, nobody owes you shite or is going to give you shite, and nobody is going to solve your problems for you. Go find whatever job you can, live within the means that that job affords you. And from that starting point, you advance and grow. It's going to take time, years in fact. But if you work hard, save whatever you can, and live within your means, then later on down the road you can look back and see that you've made something out of yourself. It's up to you to do it, nobody is going to do it for you. And blaming everyone else for your problems is certainly not going to do a damn bit of good.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:48 am to MightyYat
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That's my biggest gripe about Millennials right now. Not many of them are willing to take anything entry level and work their way up. They mostly think they should just be handed the keys to a job that someone has been doing for 20 years.
I can agree with this. I know a lot of people that feel very entitled thinking they were going to CEO after undergrad. However, I know more people that work crap jobs to gain experience
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:49 am to MightyYat
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Not many of them are willing to take anything entry level and work their way up. They mostly think they should just be handed the keys to a job that someone has been doing for 20 years.
nobody thinks that from any generation. But if this is what you tell yourself to justify your anger at a giant group of people that you've never met, then keep at it.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:49 am to MightyYat
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Not many of them are willing to take anything entry level and work their way up. They mostly think they should just be handed the keys to a job that someone has been doing for 20 years
I keep hearing this but I know 0 of my peers that are this way. If anything, I know more millenials who are 4-5 years removed from college who are working multiple jobs to make ends meet.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:50 am to GetCocky11
Baby boomers have screwed over millennials
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:51 am to constant cough
I'll trust the U.S. Census Bureau. He's a boomer, brah.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:53 am to cas4t
It's a straw man, and a silly one at that. These threads are always a bunch of people showing how the economy is stacked against the millennialis, and the rebuttal of "y'all are lazy".
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:54 am to MightyYat
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However, most of those boomers didn't start out at the level they are today. That's my biggest gripe about Millennials right now. Not many of them are willing to take anything entry level and work their way up. They mostly think they should just be handed the keys to a job that someone has been doing for 20 years.
I'm a millennial in my early 30s. I've been working in my field for nearly 10 years now. I think I've more than paid my dues, but there is nowhere to go right now because I keep getting passed over by people with more experience. Experience doesn't mean crap to me. Just because someone has 25-30 years of experience, doesn't mean they are better at their job than I am.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:54 am to Ancient Astronaut
quote:And they are also blaming the millenials for allowing themselves to get screwed.
Baby boomers screwed over the Millenials.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:54 am to GetCocky11
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I know it is an anecdotal counterargument, but I've rarely met someone who shares this mindset in the millennial generation.
I just got rid of one recently. He wanted a raise that would have put him in the 95th percentile of his position, after having been in the position for around six months and not really progressing. I LOLed him out of my office. He got all pouty and passive-aggressive in the office, so I motivated, documentated and terminated in short order. Others who put in their time and give a shite about the quality of their work get all manner of special breaks and perks. There is corporate loyalty, it just has to be earned and/or a two-way street. A company doesn't owe you a job. They choose to keep you on every day.
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