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re: Will the millennials be a lost generation?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:18 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:18 am to Darth_Vader
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Ih I'm sorry. I thought this was an actual discussion where people had different views and opinions. Instead y'all are just wanting to have a pity party circle jerk. Ok, gotcha. Yall carry on where one whines and bitches and everyone else just nods their head in agreement.
I disagree with some of your points in this thread but I think you've provided sound logic for your opinions. so far. Maybe I'm biased based on our paths crossing in history threads.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 11:19 am
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:20 am to GetCocky11
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All you do is call us lazy, entitled, etc. when I see people my age working their asses off just like you did and getting nowhere.
That's because corporations are taking over every facet of American business. While they are staples of their founders hard work, they are destroying the American dream for everyone else. They have enough $$ to buy or crush their competition, making it hard for people to start their own companies. Which in turn would create jobs. If you're a millennial, the majority of jobs for you are corporate jobs. I'm not saying they're bad, they just hinder any growth in the individual. It's like the argument in "Office Space": "If I bust my arse and we ship an extra 100 units, I don't see anything for it." So, People just show up, get the 40hrs and roll.
In privately owned companies, the owner usually knows you. At least they'll know your face. You feel more of a need to accomplish things because you're "someone" in the company. You have a WAY better chance at advancing in the company by experience and hard work than arse kissing and minority qoutas. They help you if you've come on hard times or have an ill family member. The environment is more laid back.
Millenials need to go out and start businesses while the safety net is still there. They need to buy American and local. They need to start writing their congressman when they are pissed about a policy, instead of bitching on Twitter and FB. They need to stop the "social justice" movement because it is insulting to minorities. And for God's sake, quit texting and driving.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:28 am to GetCocky11
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Can you do some sort of apprenticeship to learn how to operate a crane? Or, would someone have to go back to school to learn?
there is a certification process and courses you have to take. I think they are two 3 week courses. The life isn't great because they are always being moved around but they get paid very well.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:31 am to TDsngumbo
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Take a look around the roadways today - the vast majority of cars and trucks nicer than yours are driven by millennials.
Where the f&%k are you driving? The only place I ever see millennials driving nice cars are on college campuses where those cars were given to them by their parents. Everywhere else, their cars are generally no more flashy than a gently used camry or some old POS.
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They rent way more than any other generation does.
That's because they are so saddled with debt that they can't afford a down payment or even if they could, their massive levels of debt prevent them from qualifying for loans.
This generation hates sitting in traffic (partially because most of them can't afford cars) so they have to rent close to their work. Where are the jobs? Cities. Where is housing close to jobs? In cities. They rent because they have to or because their economic situation makes it advantageous.
For young workers, employers have no loyalty and demand that employees be able to move across the country at a moment's notice. Renting makes that easier.
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So many of them are moving back in with their parents as well. This further deteriorates the economy since they're literally contributing nothing to society in many, many of those cases.
You have it backwards. They're not causing economic decline because they're living with their parents. They're living with their parents because of economic decline. They live with their parents because housing prices are crazy, they're saddled with tons of debt, and their jobs don't pay enough for them to afford their own places, so they live with their parents until they can get promoted and save up for a down payment on a house. It's responsible financial decision-behavior.
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This generation has no job-hunting skills whatsoever.
False. Job hunting is just more difficult due to our modern HR culture. Those doing the hiring are not the same as those performing the jobs, and not the same as those teaching prospective workers how to work in that industry, causing a massive disconnect between what companies need, what companies look for in applicants, and what applicants actually know. The "experience" gap is real. It's hard to start climbing the ladder when the first rung requires "5 years relevant experience" that can only be gained by already being on that first rung.
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The millennial generation is truly pathetic. They're doomed later in life.
We agree on the latter, but not on the former. Billionaire or Bust, this generation is.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:32 am to GetCocky11
I don't classify myself as part of a generation.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:35 am to BayouBengals03
All I want is to opt out of SS and Medicare. Commie BS.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:36 am to Darth_Vader
Well, if you provided something other than pointless personal anecdotes, that type of post wouldn't be directed at you.
It's great that you rose from the bottom, but it doesn't mean anything in this thread.
It's great that you rose from the bottom, but it doesn't mean anything in this thread.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:50 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Well, if you provided something other than pointless personal anecdotes, that type of post wouldn't be directed at you.
I did but you chose to ignore them.
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It's great that you rose from the bottom, but it doesn't mean anything in this thread.
Actually it should. I'm nothing special. If I can do it, anyone can do it. You've just got to be willing to put in the work, sacrifice, and time.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:55 am to brodeo
HR is the worst thing ever created
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:55 am to brodeo
I have three millenial children. I love them, but they are dysfunctional, and the product of too much coddling by their parents. (Most of their friends are far more coddled than they are.)
Millenials lack some basic traits. Ambition, resilience, independence. And they are too addicted to their digital devices.
Millenials lack some basic traits. Ambition, resilience, independence. And they are too addicted to their digital devices.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:57 am to Slippy
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I have three millenial children. I love them, but they are dysfunctional, and the product of too much coddling by their parents. (Most of their friends are far more coddled than they are.)
So you are saying you messed up and coddled your children too much?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:58 am to GetCocky11
Yep.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:04 pm to Slippy
Haha ok just making sure I read it right.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:05 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:I don't disagree that anyone can do it, it's just a lot harder (as evidenced by the graphs in the OP). Not to mention it's a completely different world due to technology.
Actually it should. I'm nothing special. If I can do it, anyone can do it. You've just got to be willing to put in the work, sacrifice, and time.
Like I said, I'm not worried about myself. I know I'll be fine. My point is I think it is going to be a lot harder for the millennial middle class than it was for previous generations.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:20 pm to constant cough
I was born in Dec 1983, does that make me a X or millennial? I've heard both terms used before.
What is the hard cut of and is it 1980?
What is the hard cut of and is it 1980?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:23 pm to musick
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was born in Dec 1983, does that make me a X or millennial? I've heard both terms used before.
What is the hard cut of and is it 1980?
From what I've seen on here, the Millennial generation starts at 1980.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:26 pm to Darth_Vader
I think it is considered anybody who became an adult around 2000 or after
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:29 pm to Darth_Vader
The way I've understood it
'46-'64= Babyboom
'65-'79= Gen X
'80-'00= Millennials
'46-'64= Babyboom
'65-'79= Gen X
'80-'00= Millennials
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:32 pm to TDsngumbo
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Take a look around the roadways today - the vast majority of cars and trucks nicer than yours are driven by millennials.
That's a complete load of shite. My generation isn't obsessed at all with cars. In fact, the nicer the car, the more we suspect that the driver is clearly trying to make up for massive insecurities.
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They focus too much on the "cheap" monthly cost rather than the overall cost. This drives up their debt, restraining the majority of their monthly income. Forcing them to rent instead of buy a home.
Oh yeah, let's follow your generation's example by taking out mortgages we don't want or can't afford and then let the country spiral out of control. Sorry, but I have no reason to buy a house as a single bachelor in my 20s. That would be an insanely stupid thing for me to do at this age.
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They rent way more than any other generation does. They're throwing their money away on something they'll never call their own. Many of them are renting because they've made stupid decisions earlier in their life (such as borrowing entirely too much, whether for school, cars, retail stores, etc.). They can't afford to buy a home and start a family in a home of their own.
Hate to break it to you, but the 1950s are fricking dead and they're not coming back. Almost everyone who isn't married/doesn't have kids that live in cities don't want to live in a house. They like apartments, and it's not because they made stupid decisions. Less upkeep, and if I want to move to a neighborhood I discover I like more, then it's no big deal and I don't have to go through a major hassle with a mortgage and selling the house. Such a ridiculous argument.
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This generation has no job-hunting skills whatsoever.
Hmmm, can't be because there are a whole lot more people with much less jobs that require ridiculous qualifications to get them, now would it?
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The millennial generation is truly pathetic. They're doomed later in life.
Yeah, frick you. An article came out today that 22% of millenials are aready taking care of their parents (ie: Baby Boomers). We're going to have to clean up your shitty mess and have to suffer the consequences for your generation's mistakes. Hope you enjoy your retirement at the age of 80 and then you complain that people in their 40s aren't qualified for their jobs that you had when you were 30 at their age.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:34 pm to OMLandshark
Damn, some of yall are angry.
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