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Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:29 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
Phoenix seems like a lousy place to be building this.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:31 pm to nycguy
So what? Only took 10 years for Louisiana to reopen Hubig pies
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:33 pm to nycguy
The dumbest policy position the Republicans have taken over the last three years was letting Dems beat them to the punch with the Chips Act. It’s one piece of critical investment that they could have gotten nearly the entire population on board with. This was a big win for the Dems, and one the Republicans didn’t have to give away
In either case, this is a great thing for the country
In either case, this is a great thing for the country
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Some things are worth subsidizing
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:08 pm to funnystuff
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The dumbest policy position the Republicans have taken over the last three years was letting Dems beat them to the punch with the Chips Act. It’s one piece of critical investment that they could have gotten nearly the entire population on board with. This was a big win for the Dems, and one the Republicans didn’t have to give away
Are you sure about that?
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The CHIPS and Science Act combines two bipartisan bills: the Endless Frontier Act,[15] designed to boost investment in domestic high-tech research, and the CHIPS for America Act,[16] designed to bring semiconductor manufacturing back to the U.S. The act is aimed at competing with China.[17]
The Endless Frontier Act was initially presented to Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Todd Young (R-IN) by Under Secretary of State Keith Krach in October 2019, as part of the Global Economic Security Strategy to boost investment in high-tech research vital to U.S. national security.[18][19] The plan was to grow $150 billion in government R&D funding into a $500 billion investment, with matching investments from the private sector and a coalition of technological allies dubbed the "Techno-Democracies-10" (TD-10).[20][19] On May 27, 2020, Senators Young and Schumer, along with Congressmen Ro Khanna (D-CA) and Mike Gallagher (R-WI.), introduced the bipartisan, bicameral Endless Frontier Act to solidify the United States' leadership in scientific and technological innovation through increased investments in the discovery, creation, and commercialization of technology fields of the future.[21]
The United States Innovation and Competition Act of 2021 (USICA) (S. 1260), formerly known as the Endless Frontier Act, was United States legislation sponsored by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senator Young authorizing $110 billion for basic and advanced technology research over a five-year period. Investment in basic and advanced research, commercialization, and education and training programs in artificial intelligence, semiconductors, quantum computing, advanced communications, biotechnology and advanced energy, amounts to $100 billion. Over $10 billion was authorized for appropriation to designate ten regional technology hubs and create a supply chain crisis-response program.[22]
The CHIPS for America Act portion stemmed from Under Secretary of State Krach and his team brokering the $12 billion on-shoring of TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company) to secure the supply chain of sophisticated semiconductors, on May 15, 2020.[23][24][25] Krach's stated strategy was to use the TSMC announcement as a stimulus for fortifying a trusted supply chain by attracting TSMC's broad ecosystem of suppliers; persuading other chip companies to produce in U.S., especially Intel and Samsung; inspiring universities to develop engineering curricula focused on semiconductor manufacturing and designing a bipartisan bill (CHIPS for America) to provide the necessary funding.[26] This led to Krach and his team's close collaboration in creating the CHIPS for America component with Senators John Cornyn (R-TX) and Mark Warner (D-VA).[27] In June 2020, Senator Warner joined U.S. Senator John Cornyn in introducing the $52 billion CHIPS for America Act.[28]
Appears this was a bipartisan effort that began during the Trump Administration. Regardless of how it started I am really hoping that the manufacture of chips comes to fruition and we are able to produce here at home since China is asshoe.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:32 pm to nycguy
Running from the Chinese Communists.
Using Hong Kong as an indication of what's to come,
Hang Seng Index
16,365 July 1 1997 (Returned to mainland China)
16,732 April 8 2024
In comparison
Dow Jones
5,729 July 1 1997
38,892 April 8 2024
Hong Kong’s rights and freedoms that are supposed to be guaranteed until 2047 under the agreement known as “one country, two systems” has fallen apart with Communist China crackdowns.
Taiwan is f'd.
Using Hong Kong as an indication of what's to come,
Hang Seng Index
16,365 July 1 1997 (Returned to mainland China)
16,732 April 8 2024
In comparison
Dow Jones
5,729 July 1 1997
38,892 April 8 2024
Hong Kong’s rights and freedoms that are supposed to be guaranteed until 2047 under the agreement known as “one country, two systems” has fallen apart with Communist China crackdowns.
Taiwan is f'd.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:36 pm to bad93ex
i dont give a shite which politician gets credit for what, ill be voting with my wallet come nov, but whomever got this going....great job.
its literally a national security issue and if trump wins like i think, he should do everythign in his power to get these chips built in the US. as many companies as he can. even if its tax credits the point we are paying them to do it over next decade. worth it for the security alone.
its literally a national security issue and if trump wins like i think, he should do everythign in his power to get these chips built in the US. as many companies as he can. even if its tax credits the point we are paying them to do it over next decade. worth it for the security alone.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:41 pm to nycguy
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TSMC boosts Joe Biden’s AI chip ambitions with $11.6bn US production deal
World’s biggest chipmaker will build cutting-edge facilities in Arizona
Why would they do this when Bawcomville has everything a chip maker could want and more.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:48 pm to nycguy
I hate Biden, but it's hard to argue that there's anything wrong with this. He is copying Trump's policy, which is a good thing.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:09 pm to nycguy
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Difference is we will actually build it now.
No there have been lots of trouble with getting the Biden Bucks because they are requiring a certain % of the construction workers to be female and obviously that is hard to accomplish. The Chinese aren't used to all this BS we put up with over here.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:32 am to nycguy
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World’s biggest chipmaker will build cutting-edge facilities in Arizona in exchange for billions in subsidies
We're slowly just becoming a socialist country.
The subsides and protectionism mean the industry will never again be self sufficient.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:35 am to AUstar
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, but it's hard to argue that there's anything wrong with this
The same reason people are upset with China, subsidized industry.
We are no different.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:39 am to funnystuff
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Some things are worth subsidizing
Do you know who this benefits? Massive corporations.
Do you know who it hurts? Small business.
Its no different than what China is doing, socializing industry.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:47 am to SvegiNazim
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A chipmaker of that size moving operations to Arizona will shake things up. It sounds like a smart move for the U.S. to boost its domestic semiconductor production. It’s no secret how vital chips are for everything these days, from cars to phones to big data centers.
This is a bot bumping a thread from a few months ago.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:49 am to nycguy
Move zapps back to Louisiana. The damn things taste like cardboard now.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:50 am to No Colors
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What's not to like?
The auto industry is damned near socialized, why not the rest of our industry?
Hell, lets subsidize everyone to be fair, so we arent picking winners and losers.
Sounds like corporatism and govt ownership of industry is no longer a barrier to Americans.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:04 am to BuckyCheese
Long history of technology production in that area. (Motorola in the 60s)
Awesome place and greater Pheonix is about the same population as the entire state of Louisiana, with surprise!, the infrastructure to support it.
Awesome place and greater Pheonix is about the same population as the entire state of Louisiana, with surprise!, the infrastructure to support it.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:10 am to nycguy
They are dragging their feet on any movement to the US right now. Some of it is seeing what Trump will do but the main reason is they think we will not care about Taiwan the mor they move here
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:12 am to SvegiNazim
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SvegiNazim
AI bot bumping a months old thread about chips. How convenient.
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