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re: Would You Climb Mount Everest?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:34 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:34 pm to NYNolaguy1
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This. The Summit pretty thoroughly tells you why K2 is way more of a challenge. And why it kills way more people than Everest.
Fatality rate on Everest is roughly 5%. It's 25% on K2 and 30% on Annapurna.
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Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:35 pm to BooDreaux
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Might be the most physically challenging feat on Earth.
K2 is harder.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Fatality rate on Everest is roughly 5%
I would be in the 5%. No thanks. Hell, I look at Mt Rainier every day and don't have the slightest desire to climb it.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:52 pm to northshorebamaman
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I would be in the 5%. No thanks. Hell, I look at Mt Rainier every day and don't have the slightest desire to climb it.
Same here and Rainier kills plenty of people even at 14,000 feet (complexity and glaciers).
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:56 pm to BooDreaux
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Cost starts at $65,000
And that doesn't include the money you aren't earning because you took 3 months off from work.
I've done Kili, Rainier, a handful of others. Next up is Cotopaxi. I'd consider Denali or Aconcagua at most, in good weather a Sherpa maybe could coax me up Everest. From what I understand you practically don't need any real climbing skills at all now, it's still physically demanding so you'd better be in damn good shape, but is also much less technical. But it just costs too damn much and I don't have time for it.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:57 pm to NWarty
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Rainier kills plenty of people even at 14,000 feet (
Yep, it seems like it kills a few people every year.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:00 pm to CaptainJ47
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No need I like life
I don't see how these are related. I wouldn't do it and I hate my life.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:24 pm to LucasP
You know, I really enjoy having sex, but if there was a 5% mortality rate associated with that act then celibacy suddenly seems so much more appealing. 65 grand to not be able to breathe for months at a time, crap in a hole in the ground, and risk frostbite every single day? I think I'd just use that money on some hookers and blow thank you kindly.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:33 pm to BooDreaux
Yes
to the top no
to the top no
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:35 pm to BooDreaux
It's on my bucket list. Ultimately, I would like to climb it with one of my sons after they turn 18, but still have a few years to see.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:37 pm to PotatoChip
No thanks. I've seen enough of the Hindu Kush mountain range
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:37 pm to northshorebamaman
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Rainier kills plenty of people even at 14,000 feet (
Yep, it seems like it kills a few people every year.
True. I've been there and done that, here are my thoughts.
Rainier is a good "training" mountain for people interested in learning the basics of glacier travel. In fact, it's a great one for that.
This ain't rock climbing, but the angle of ascent is sometimes (not always) enough so that if you lose your footing you will go tumbling. If that happens, the outcome will be one of the following:
A. You are skilled in self-arrest and act within the 2-3 seconds you have.
B. You tumble downslope in an uncontrolled fashion until you hit something or fall into a crevasse.
The problem is that beginners (remember, it's a training mountain, there are lots of them) will pick B.
Throw in the fact that best practice for glacier travel is to rope up in teams of 3 or 4. The idea is that if you slip and start falling you can shout out warning to your team and they'll self-arrest too. The problem is that this works great for experienced climbers, not so much for beginners.
I suspect that on a mountain like Rainier where there are so many beginners, it would be better to have teams of 5-6, with guides at the front (to lead the way) and at the rear (to self-arrest immediately when he/she sees a faller).
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:38 pm to BooDreaux
If I had the expenses paid and experts with me, absolutely. I have no wife or kids, or a gf. I'm probably around my peak physically at 25. I'd go for it. What a story id have.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:43 pm to BooDreaux
Nope. Not enough of a challenge.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:49 pm to foshizzle
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foshizzle
Good post. I'd never climb most of the big mountains but I'm fascinated by it.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 4:00 pm to northshorebamaman
I prefer to take the Buddha Airlines flight and take pics from afar
Posted on 4/12/15 at 4:00 pm to BooDreaux
No?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 4:01 pm to foshizzle
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I suspect that on a mountain like Rainier where there are so many beginners, it would be better to have teams of 5-6, with guides at the front (to lead the way) and at the rear (to self-arrest immediately when he/she sees a faller).
1- It'll cost more, so if all the guide services didn't do it you'd have one service working OT which isn't good either.
2- They break the groups up pretty well I think for maximum safety.
3- Most articles I read about fatalities seemed to me to be about non guided climbers. I'd like to se some data on that actually.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 4:04 pm to Arksulli
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You know, I really enjoy having sex, but if there was a 5% mortality rate associated with that act then celibacy suddenly seems so much more appealing.
i get what you are saying, but sex is a biological need..... climbing a fricking mountain, isn't....
Posted on 4/12/15 at 4:33 pm to QuietTiger
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1- It'll cost more, so if all the guide services didn't do it you'd have one service working OT which isn't good either.
Yes, I thought about the cost factor. I agree that guide services use the current model for that reason, it's tough to convince beginners to pay extra for the additional sweeping guide but I do believe it is substantially more safe to have guides to both lead and trail. Of course, since the trailer can only do so much to hold an entire team in a fall, that effectively caps the rope team at 6 and even that is a stretch IMHO.
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