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Waxed cotton for snow wear

Posted on 8/18/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23985 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 4:42 pm
Just got a waxed cotton Barbour jacket. Interested in getting some waxed cotton overalls to wear under it when it’s cold and rainy since it should also be pretty water resistant. Carhart seems to make a pretty affordable pair.

How is waxed cotton for snow? We don’t get it all the time where I’m at, maybe once or twice a years with some years having no snow. We can get quite a few inches when it does come though.

So just curious how good this gear will be in the snow. Don’t really want to have to buy a whole set of snow clothes for the occasional snow storm.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42584 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 5:07 pm to
Waxed cotton is great in snow .... just heavier.

You can wax your own using paraffin and mineral oil with an old iron. It'll be the best waterproof clothes you'll ever own.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23985 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Waxed cotton is great in snow .... just heavier.


Not too worried about that. Not hiking or doing anything other than walking around the neighborhood 99% of the time when it does snow.

So I think this will be a good way to get some quality clothes.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5520 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:22 pm to
I have an Avery Heritage pullover waxed cotton jacket I wear for pretty much any winter weather. One of my favorite pieces of gear for deer, ducks, etc
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47442 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:23 pm to
I have a fjallraven waxed cotton anorak that I wear constantly in the winter. Every fall I re wax it with Greenland wax and a hot iron or a heat gun
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
2692 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 8:07 pm to
Waxed cotton is exceptional for snow, but like discussed above it is heavier.

Just make sure you treat/re apply every so often, I have a ton of waxed cotton I use in Minnesota and Canada I’ve had for decades.

Goretex is another great option if you’re looking for a little lighter weight stuff that will keep you warm and dry.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 8:18 pm to
Waxed cotton is superior in every respect regarding wet/snowy conditions, and nothing cuts the wind better and has the lifespan it does.

One thing, though: Do N O T hang it up over a heater, or any other source of heat to try and dry it out faster. It will dry out on its own plenty fast via ambient heat in your home.

I did it once with my Filson and almost shrunk it so much that it was unwearable. It's almost too small now that I'm older and 15 pounds heavier.

I love that old jacket and have put it through the ringer working and playing in the woods and swamps. Just bought a new Barbour late last winter and loved it in the field and on the town. Beautiful, functional, stylish jackets, they are. Fantastic for upland hunting. It's not quite as heavy duty as my Filson, but it's going to be a fine jacket no doubt.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23985 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 8:44 pm to
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Just bought a new Barbour late last winter and loved it in the field and on the town. Beautiful, functional, stylish jackets, they are. Fantastic for upland hunting. It's not quite as heavy duty as my Filson, but it's going to be a fine jacket no doubt.


Which one did you get? I’m between the Ashby and the Bedale right now. Ordered both and waiting on the bedale to come in. I think I will like the bedale more as it is supposed to be roomier. I will keep one of them though for sure.

I also bought spier and MacKay’s which i got on sale for like $250 and you get a lot of jacket. 8oz heavy duty with a quieted liner. Way more bang for your Buck and looks great.

But I really want a Barbour
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33762 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Waxed cotton is superior in every respect regarding wet/snowy conditions, and nothing cuts the wind better and has the lifespan it does.


Yeah, living where it REALLY snows and snows ALOT, I wouldn't go that far...

It doesn't let moisture in, but it doesn't let it out either.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:24 pm to
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It doesn't let moisture in, but it doesn't let it out either.
This is the truth. You learn to vent that sucker with the front and rear zipper like a pitmaster learns to vent his BBQ to keep her rolling at 225* for a 12 hour smoke.
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Yeah, living where it REALLY snows and snows ALOT, I wouldn't go that far...
Yeah, I can't relate. Certainly doesn't snow much in MS.

But in rainy, cold, windy nasty cold conditions, and working in the woods during, it's unmatched in keeping you dry, warm and the briars and thorns out without being shredded to pieces in a single season.

But that sucker can get steamy in a hurry, no doubt.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33762 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:40 pm to
When it's single digits outside, you don't want to hang on to body moisture.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:41 pm to
I bought the classic Beaufort in olive.

I'll probably buy another Filson Field Jacket (not the Field Coat, the Field Jacket, there's a difference) because I've worn mine slap out and am afraid to send it off because I've heard well worn tin cloth jackets can wind up missing because of the resale value. Apparently the soft hand yuppies go crazy over them, so I'm going to retire it for my son and buy another.

I love my Filson. It's an absolute beast. Surveyed a many a mile of thick property line with it on, paddled a pirogue through God only knows how many miles of buck brush thickets, chased turkeys, stalked hogs, and shot wild quail with it on, then turned right around and took my wife out on a date wearing it that night with compliment after compliment on the patina that old thing sported.

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't kill turkeys with it on either. Shot this public land bird in drenching rain at 25 yards. Never saw what hit him (picture taken with an iPhone 3 or some 2012 equivalent).
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:47 pm to
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When it's single digits outside, you don't want to hang on to body moisture.
A rare to non-existent issue in MS and most of the Southeast regarding single digit temps. Again, in my scenario, it's unmatched. Trust me, I've tried them all.

Again, when you're working in the woods, you're looking to stay warm and dry but also need something with longevity that doesn’t have to be replaced every season, at best. Sure, space age material breathes better, I'm not arguing with you, but when you have to carry a line through a thorn thicket and there's no if's, and's or but's about it, that space age material doesn't hold up too well day after day, year after year. I know plenty about sweating in the cold. It's miserable, but so is spending hundreds of dollars on less durable equipment every time mother nature throws a 100 year old barbed wire fence in your way in low light conditions. I've yet to find a better alternative than heavy waxed canvas clothing.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33762 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:29 pm to
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I'm not arguing with you,


Nor am I. Just saying that everyone is in a unique situation and needs to find what works best for them, not someone else. Sounds like in your case you've found that unicorn.

Many times on these boards folks try to justify their own decisions by trying to convince others to do the same (not saying that's what you're doing, just an observation.)

And on a funny side note, I used to teach skiing with a guy that would from time to time go out on powder days in a full length Filson duster. But it was for show, not function. Lol.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 10:30 pm
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:36 pm to
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Many times on these boards folks try to justify their own decisions by trying to convince others to do the same (not saying that's what you're doing, just an observation.)
Understood and agree. In fact, I thought you were digging in about to do the same

I always think I'd love to move to Montana, Idaho, etc., but I couldn't take the cold. I absolutely hate it. Months of single digit temps is something I don't have built into me. It's a whole different ballgame in places like that and climates where I assume you live.

I've got friends in the heavy equipment industry who've done alot of contracting work in those environments and the lengths they have to go through to even crank a damn machine would drive me mad.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING will wear a man out like heavy labor in extreme cold. Everything hurts and stamina is maybe 30% of what it would be in equivalent hot conditions. I remember a few years back when everybody was stranded in their homes in MS for a week due to the ice and snow, all those folks who claimed they liked cold weather were real quiet by day 4.

The clothing yall have to have in those environs is on a completely different level. Like I said in the OT thread on the heat: you don't acclimate to cold, you just die. Sweating can be a matter of life or death in those scenarios. No thank you, sir.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33762 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:46 pm to
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In fact, I thought you were digging in about to do the same


Nah. I know my situation is way too different than 99% of the folks here to push any agenda. Dad has an old Barbour coat that he bought in Scotland that I hope to aquire one day.

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Nothing, and I mean NOTHING will wear a man out like heavy labor in extreme cold.


Just about the coldest I've ever been in my life is when my old boss threw me out on the survey crew when one of his Rodman didn't show up. Was dressed for the office, not out doors. 15 degrees and howling wind. I was frozen to the bone. I always tell the kid, dress every day like you're going to spend an hour or more outside. That's from hard learned lessons.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 6:39 am to
Filson is the answer
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2462 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:54 am to
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I’m between the Ashby and the Bedale right now


I have the Ashby. It wasn't intended to be a coat that I wore "in the field". It's a slimmer fit. I wore it with business casual clothes to work and such. I find it looks better for that atmosphere. If I were going to really "use" it, I would go with the Bedale. Even now, I'm about 50 lbs heavier than when I bought the Ashby. I can still wear it, but it's tight if I have layers and fully zip it up. I wish I would have just got the Bedale to begin with.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23985 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:10 pm to
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have the Ashby. It wasn't intended to be a coat that I wore "in the field". It's a slimmer fit. I wore it with business casual clothes to work and such. I find it looks better for that atmosphere. If I were going to really "use" it, I would go with the Bedale. Even now, I'm about 50 lbs heavier than when I bought the Ashby. I can still wear it, but it's tight if I have layers and fully zip it up. I wish I would have just got the Bedale to begin with.


I will probably go with the bedale. I’d want to wear it more ruggedly and loosely with layers. The Ashby I have currently fits ok with layers but is a hair tight. My bedale should arrive this week and then I can make a final decision.
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