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re: A biblical warning about our times
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:22 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:22 pm to LSUconvert
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These are examples, but how did you determine that these two things are different? Where in the bible does it discuss the idea of metaphors?
The Bible writers used the same literary techniques that other writers used.
One has to use common sense, parallel passages and the aid of the Holy Spirit to interpret passages.
This doesn’t mean that a person can’t be wrong about a particular interpretation of a verse or passage. We are encouraged to search the scriptures and test the things we read.
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:24 pm to blueboy
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Not all of them. Not even close.
I meant the earth and all it’s inhabitants will be destroyed one day.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:25 pm to Dawgwithnoname
Leftist religions:
Climate Change
"Trust the Science"
Abortion
"Pay their fair share"
Not part of Leftist Religion:
God
Jesus
The Holy Spirit
The Bible
Holiness
Morality
evil propaganda.
and importantly is illustration of claim that god is on our side and the other guy worships false gods.
i beg to differ.
in fact there is ONLY God.
and the ancient judeo Christian teaching still the hall mark is God is an entity, an Other Who decides judges and carries on vendettas of massive scale. its kids stuff. nothing of the sort is truth. all this is one divine conscious person in whom you inhere.
thus your petty pretendings about socialism are really nonsense. as if aunt mattie in iowa, a democrat, isnt as reverent in her Christian church as the next man.
Climate Change
"Trust the Science"
Abortion
"Pay their fair share"
Not part of Leftist Religion:
God
Jesus
The Holy Spirit
The Bible
Holiness
Morality
evil propaganda.
and importantly is illustration of claim that god is on our side and the other guy worships false gods.
i beg to differ.
in fact there is ONLY God.
and the ancient judeo Christian teaching still the hall mark is God is an entity, an Other Who decides judges and carries on vendettas of massive scale. its kids stuff. nothing of the sort is truth. all this is one divine conscious person in whom you inhere.
thus your petty pretendings about socialism are really nonsense. as if aunt mattie in iowa, a democrat, isnt as reverent in her Christian church as the next man.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Sooooo, "our times" are basically the last 10,000 years or so.
That’s 4,000 years older than the Earth, so no…
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:38 pm to catholictigerfan
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Does science point to men living 900+ years? I haven't heard it doing that yet. If it does I would love to hear.
check out book
tapaswiji maharaj
its got a few chapters on various old people including cover guy.
one story is about rejuvating the cover story guy.
some stories are far fetched. one guy in a high valley in himalayas supposedly spoke classical sanscrit (which the person relating the tale knew), which would place him in thousands of years old.
none of it is science.
my buddhist teacher said its possible to slow functions so as to live hundreds or thousands.
you would have to be maintaining the yoga all the time. youd need a servant.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:41 pm to Revelator
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I take the Bible literally when it’s meant to be literal. If God said their life span was hundreds of years back then, I believe it to be literal.
How is it possible that man lives 900+ years when science clearly shows it’s impossible?
Now I realize that with God all things are possible so someone could live that long, but to me it makes more sense that the scriptures exaggerated ages to make a point that walking with God gives blessings in this life, one of which means a long life. Instead of multiple men lived 900+ years.
My point was that Revelation in particular is a symbolic book, and why I hold to the view that the 144000 is symbolic not a literal number of those saved or marked for a specific purpose.
That’s why I brought up 666 as well as it represents Nero Caesar (in Greek Neron Caesar, which adds up to 666.) If John or whoever wrote revelation, used symbolic words with 666 why not with the number 144000. I brought up 900+ years because to me that is a clearly symbolic passage.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:42 pm to Revelator
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Timothy 1-5
You should know this, that in the last days there will be very difficult times.
2 For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred.
3 They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good.
4 They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God.
5 They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that
This is less real than the zodiac. At least the zodiac is rooted in our pareidolia.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:43 pm to Revelator
I'm not worried. I'll be raptured. God Bless
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:44 pm to Revelator
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If the Bible says Jesus healed a leper, it’s literal.
If the Bible says Jesus is a door or we are sheep, it’s figurative, etc.
Yes that’s an easy one, but there are plenty of passages in scripture that are difficult to tell if it’s literal or symbolic. That’s why we have these disagreements.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:49 pm to salty1
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disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred.
These aspects didn’t seem as prevalent in the past. Perhaps it was just the area that I was raised in.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:55 pm to Revelator
I would say the dark ages and the plague years were worse than now. Maybe the years where christians were being fed to lions in the colesium too. In fact, I would say these years are a cake walk compared to those. Doesn't mean I like what's going on, though.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:12 pm to CelticDog
You completely missed the point in your babbling retort.
I'm willing to bet my eternity on my belief in Christ, not a consciousness.
I'm willing to bet my eternity on my belief in Christ, not a consciousness.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:30 pm to catholictigerfan
You know what sort of amuses me Catholic? Lots of Catholics want to say literal things are symbolic, because it doesn’t fit their theology, but when something that should be taken symbolically, like the bread becoming the literal body of Christ, then y’all take it literally.
Anyway, I didn’t intend for this thread to be a theological discussion, but more a mirror on our current society.
Anyway, I didn’t intend for this thread to be a theological discussion, but more a mirror on our current society.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:32 pm to catholictigerfan
This is my body.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:45 pm to Revelator
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How do you know when it's meant to be taken literally or not?
If the Bible says Jesus healed a leper, it’s literal.
If the Bible says Jesus is a door or we are sheep, it’s figurative, etc.
It can only be one way or the other in our binary, dumb-arse world.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:52 pm to catholictigerfan
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How is it possible that man lives 900+ years when science clearly shows it’s impossible?
Pre-flood science >>>>>> post-flood science, bruh.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:56 pm to LSUconvert
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If the Bible says Jesus healed a leper, it’s literal.
If the Bible says Jesus is a door or we are sheep, it’s figurative, etc.
These are examples, but how did you determine that these two things are different?
If you have 60+ friends, how do YOU do it?
Do you take them all literally? Figuratively?
How DO you do it? Enquiring minds want to know.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:57 pm to Revelator
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You know what sort of amuses me Catholic? Lots of Catholics want to say literal things are symbolic, because it doesn’t fit their theology, but when something that should be taken symbolically, like the bread becoming the literal body of Christ, then y’all take it literally.
Anyway, I didn’t intend for this thread to be a theological discussion, but more a mirror on our current society.
the reason we need scriptural scholarship and the like.
but fine I'll end my discussion of this here as I clearly derailed the thread.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:59 pm to Revelator
quote:
Anyway, I didn’t intend for this thread to be a theological discussion, but more a mirror on our current society.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:09 pm to Revelator
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something that should be taken symbolically, like the bread becoming the literal body of Christ, then y’all take it literally.
How do you know that we should take Jesus's words symbolically in this case? Where in the Bible does it say that? What did the Early Church say about this topic? Do we have any early theological writings from the first few centuries of Christianity that shed light on this question?
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