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re: AI-related job news / layoffs
Posted on 2/28/26 at 6:53 am to Sid E Walker
Posted on 2/28/26 at 6:53 am to Sid E Walker
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I’ve only got another year or two left, not worried about AI taking my spot. I wouldn’t want to be in my 30s or 40s right now, that’s for sure.
I was doing IT project management from home. Ironically working on an implementation of an AI contact center platform.
As soon as I hit 65 in July I decided I'd had enough. Retired at the end of September.
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:59 am to 4cubbies
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Do we feel the job is beneath us, or the pay is beneath us?
A couple things on that.
1) Pay may be perceived as beneath us, but any pay is better than no pay.
2) Several places in my area, mostly agricultural processing like beef, pork, etc were raided by ICE. Within 3 days, all jobs were refilled by citizens.
3) More than enough evidence that illegals do indeed supress the wages.
A few other things play into it, but we don't need to get into that.
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My wealthy friend
Don't play coy. I have seen you there as well.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 2:10 pm to UtahCajun
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1) Pay may be perceived as beneath us, but any pay is better than no pay.
Right.
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2) Several places in my area, mostly agricultural processing like beef, pork, etc were raided by ICE. Within 3 days, all jobs were refilled by citizens.
It sounds like the jobs weren’t perceived to be beneath Americans then.
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3) More than enough evidence that illegals do indeed supress the wages.
You mean employers illegally exploiting cheap labor suppresses wages. Place the blame where it belongs.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 2:45 pm to NIH
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Either these tech gurus are full of shite or congress should be hauling in them to explain how this nation functions with millions of jobs being rendered obsolete.
As I posted in a similar thread on the money board, if I had a dollar for every time over the last hundred or so years the so-called experts convinced shitloads that we were entering an unprecedented era of technological advancement that would result in the creation of a huge/permanent unemployed class, I'd have about $10.
And just like what happened when machinery displaced about 90% of Ag workers (at one time, Ag work was about 40% of the American workforce), and just like what happened with the automation era, the information era, the internet era, etc., while there'll be dislocations and stresses, in the end life will be much better and easier than it was before AI.
Politically, we shouldn't forget that a meaningful piece of the justification for LBJ's great society legislation was the growing (and irrational) fear that a permanent class of unemployed/underemployed was going to be created by advances in machinery and automation. Well, guess what - a class of unemployed/underemployed was created by the legislation itself, not by machinery/automation. This is why conservatives better not fall for this AI is going to replace us all bullshite.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:08 pm to 4cubbies
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It sounds like the jobs weren’t perceived to be beneath Americans then.
One industry does not a job market make
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You mean employers illegally exploiting cheap labor suppresses wages. Place the blame where it belongs
Sure, we could do that. That would entail blaming thousands and thousands of middle management HR individuals. I know several of them as I am sure you do too. They don't seem that assholish(or is it assholeish).
So your friend cannot find a job? Hopefully he/she is covering all bases and is open to working outside of his/her normal industry.
We(well, not I but the guy in the office down the hall) has been trying to fill an operator's position for months. Very few applicants. Seems no one wants to work in the natural gas industry or even thinks about it. My guy down the hall would hire a warm body right about now. Basically, I just tell you this so that you can tell your buddy to keep an open mind in his/her search.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:11 pm to David_DJS
There are entire swathes of this country, primarily in the Rust Belt, hallowed out and have never recovered once manufacturing and factories left the US. They live on government aid.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:23 pm to RelicBatches86
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There are entire swathes of this country, primarily in the Rust Belt, hallowed out and have never recovered once manufacturing and factories left the US. They live on government aid.
What would these residents of hallowed out rust belt cities being doing if there was no gov't aid option? Would they be starving in the streets?
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:24 pm to lsuguy84
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You know he’s this board’s elGaucho, right? My favorite part is all of you missing it.
There's a reason they miss it. It's because the portrayal is pretty damned representative.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:25 pm to TulsaSooner78
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I’m curious if they too have a center in India that will be taking some of the work. It’s the new trend.
New?
Exactly. Nothing new about offshoring. Workers in this country want a $15/hr minimum wage, healthcare, paid family leave, workers comp coverage, retirement plans, etc.. OTOH, there's some guy in India or Singapore who will bust his arse doing the same job for $3/hr. Does quality decrease? Maybe, but for that kind of savings, companies must consider it.
Now we get AI coming along, that, in addition to all of advantages of offshoring, is cheaper still, doesn't take lunch breaks, nights off, weekends off, or vacation. Doesn't call in sick or steal from you either.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:34 pm to UtahCajun
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Sure, we could do that. That would entail blaming thousands and thousands of middle management HR individuals. I know several of them as I am sure you do too.
It would entail blaming the business owners who mandate this practice.
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So your friend cannot find a job?
No. This isn’t a personal grievance. My friends have jobs.
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We(well, not I but the guy in the office down the hall) has been trying to fill an operator's position for months. Very few applicants. Seems no one wants to work in the natural gas industry or even thinks about it.
Maybe it’s a regional thing. My husband is from a more rural parish and knows tons of operators. Louisiana caters to oil and gas though.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 4:45 pm to 4cubbies
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It would entail blaming the business owners who mandate this practice
Only small businesses mandate at the hiring level. At large corporations, anyone above middle management has no care or desire to know.
In my last 2 jobs before this(this is working retirement), I set the pay range for any engineer or inspector to be hired into our department. I would do, like all other department heads would do. Research average wages, for experience, throughout the industry, put in a request for the position. As soon as the position was approved, I turned over the hiring details to HR, along with the pay range I was looking at paying. Sure I took part in the interviews, but haggling over the pay rate was something I did not have time for. That was HR's job. This is commonplace at large companies. I never knew exactly what the guys working for me made. Also why it is always against company policy to discuss pay with co-workers. Pay is generally up to the rate scale and how much the person can negotiate within it.
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No. This isn’t a personal grievance. My friends have jobs.
My bad then. I thought you said you knew someone looking.
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Maybe it’s a regional thing. My husband is from a more rural parish and knows tons of operators. Louisiana caters to oil and gas though.
Iowa. Been out of LA since 2006. Unless it is cornbased or University of Iowa, there is little knowledge of what we do. I just tell people I am a glorified Hank Hill. It saves me from explaining what I do. After all these years, I am tired of telling people what mechanical integrity is.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 6:36 pm to UtahCajun
quote:you’re working while collecting retirement now? Old rascal. I thought you were a Gen Xer for some reason.
this is working retirement)
quote:I downplay my job too. People tend to respond with adulation to my actual job and I never know how to respond to it. “…I get paid to do this?”
I just tell people I am a glorified Hank Hill. It saves me from explaining what I do.
In terms of the exploitation of undocumented workers— congress could easily mandate e-verify for all employers but they refuse to because they benefit from the exploitation of illegals immigrant labor via their donors. It’s all a scam.
This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 7:48 pm
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