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re: Ancient Stone Carvings-Comet(s) Hitting Earth app.10,950 BC (p14, Shermer concedes...)
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:57 am to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:57 am to ThinePreparedAni
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more than 13,000 years ago
There were actually PEOPLE living that far back?
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:02 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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sent us back to the Stone Age
So it was comets, and not Muslims, that made that happen. Learn something new every day.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:04 am to ThinePreparedAni
Great Joe Rogan Experience podcast on this. I suggest watching the YouTube version because it has a lot of pictures.
JSE #872
ETA: Another interesting related topic is the real age of the Sphinx in Egypt.
JSE #872
ETA: Another interesting related topic is the real age of the Sphinx in Egypt.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:How can you be sure they were "natural" calamities?
before natural calamities sent us back to the Stone Age
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:49 am to Langland
I do...why dont you type how it's political. Scientific? Biblical? Etc? How did it shape the judicial, legislative, or executive branch
I get "it". But it is not a political issue just because politicians (people) take sides on the issue.
I get "it". But it is not a political issue just because politicians (people) take sides on the issue.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 11:05 am
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:44 am to ThinePreparedAni
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BCE
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:45 am to The Boat
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Interesting how the Common Era just so happens to start when Jesus was born.
Is this silliness actually catching on outside of academia?
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:46 am to tarzana
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Learn something new every day.
Doubtful.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:47 am to ThinePreparedAni
At what time was the Egyptians and Moses? Remember one of the plagues was fire from the sky
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:47 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
We need to dump the whole BC/AD stupidity and just use what some scientific journals use: years before present.
10,000 ybp
Sometimes they use "years ago."
10,000 ya
10,000 ybp
Sometimes they use "years ago."
10,000 ya
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:11 pm to AUstar
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they
racist bigot
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:15 pm to The Boat
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Interesting how the Common Era just so happens to start when Jesus was born.
The Gospel of Matthew tells us that Jesus was born under the reign of king Herod the Great, who died in 4 B.C.E..
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:36 pm to deltaland
Early Bronze Age, between 1642 and 1540 BC. The natural disaster believed to line up with the story of Exodus is the Thera Supervolcano Eruption, modern day island of Santorini. This explosion wiped out, or severely weakened, the Minoan civilization and triggered tsunamis all around the Mediterranean. Thera is today believed by many scholars to be the legiondary island of Atlantis. Archeologists have found 5 story buildings with running hot and cold water preserved beneath the ash.
The idea is that a red tide on the Nile followed by the eruption of Thera would have produced all of the plagues and miracles (even the parting of the sea, columns of smoke/fire, etc) and it roughly fits the timeline of the reign of Pharoah Akhmoses, which means "Brother of Moses".
The idea is that a red tide on the Nile followed by the eruption of Thera would have produced all of the plagues and miracles (even the parting of the sea, columns of smoke/fire, etc) and it roughly fits the timeline of the reign of Pharoah Akhmoses, which means "Brother of Moses".
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:59 pm to kingbob
Fascinating
Posted on 4/23/17 at 3:02 pm to Arksulli
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crash1211 posted: Read Guns Germs And Steel. The author has another reason that you may find interesting.
I've read it, twice. The second time just this past February. Two things though - two things that make me hesitant to buy all of it as a reasonable answer to the question posed.
1 - Where were the highly organized bands or tribes of humans 25,000-50,000 years ago on the North American continent? Diamond starts to form his debatable theory only 13,000 years ago.
2 - He's a bleeding heart UCLA academic elitist libtard. Upon the second reading it became clear to me ... he had an agenda when spinning his tale. Besides, guns and steel - using his metric they are one and the same. His hypothesis would have been better presented as, "Steel, Water and Germs."
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North America was filled with native tribes but due to the tremendous arability of the land they didn't have to build large settlements where there was a concentration of resources.
Arksulli, I agree with all of that if we're talking strictly the past 13,000 years of human existence. But we know humans were banding together being hunter gatherers in Europe and Africa 50k+ years ago.
The oldest cave drawings or rock sketches in the Americas are what, 10k years old? And we've got just as many caves, rocks, ... just as much limestone on this continent as does Europe and Africa.
There were no humans here 50-30k years ago. Or, if there were, something other than Eurasians killed them off.
So what do we know either prevented them from coming here or extincted them once they were here?
I'm just not buying the whole socioeconomic thing the academics are trying to push on us because, 1 it fits their agenda and 2, it doesn't make sense to me.
For that matter the whole "modern man was almost extinguished 50k years ago," doesn't flush with me either.
Why were there herds of buffalo in Europe 50k years ago, as there were here ... but now they are extinct there but not here. And before we get into the predatory human theory killing off the buffalo for sport .... it's not about that. It's about similar species existing all over the world long after pangaea broke-up. Long after the Chicxulub asteroid strike. Something else happened to humans here, and it was not due to a Eurasion or European invasion.
He other unanswered question is the one sloughed off in Diamond's book ... about why African cultures remained cargoless for as long as they did.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 4:14 pm to kingbob
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The idea is that a red tide on the Nile followed by the eruption of Thera would have produced all of the plagues and miracles (even the parting of the sea, columns of smoke/fire, etc)
Context: Randall argues that knowledge of intermittent comet impacts (resetting and seeding of life via panspermia) constitutes the "Holy Grail"
Red Rain
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Wolfram in Parzival intimates in which direction we must seek to begin to unravel the riddle that is the Grail and its connection to the ‘royal blood’:
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he 8th chapter of Revelation describes the onset of the Apocalypse by the appearance of Seven Angels, announcing their arrival with trumpet blasts.
“And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth . . .”
So here, paralleling Wolframs account, we also have angels and the casting, by them, of something onto the Earth, in this case fire, hail and blood commingled.
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The biblical account has echoes in India’s great epic poem, the Mahabharata:
“The air was filled with the shouting of men, the roaring of elephants, the blasts of trumpets, and the beating of drums: the rattling of chariots was like to thunder rolling in heaven. The Gods and Gandharvas assembled in the clouds and saw the hosts which had gathered for mutual slaughter. As both armies waited for sunrise, a tempest arose and the dawn was darkened by dust clouds, so that men could scarce behold one another. Evil were the omens. Blood dropped like rain out of heaven, while jackals howled impatiently, and, kites and vultures screamed hungrily for human flesh.”
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The earliest known references in literature linking blood and the heavens are found in Homer’s Iliad. Zeus foresees that his mortal but beloved son Sarpedon is going to die in the Trojan War and as a tribute “Zeus poured bloody drops earthwards, honouring his own beloved son, whom Patroklos was soon to destroy in fertile Troy far from his homeland.” Chap. 16, v. 459
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This theme of reciprocal terrestrial and celestial discord is reiterated in Chinese mythology wherein we find a tale regarding three tribes perpetrating a great disorder. As a result of their perpetual strife “Heaven decreed their destruction. The sun came out at night and for three days it rained blood. A dragon appeared in the ancestral temple and dogs howled in the marketplace.” (Watson B. 1967. Basic writings of Mo Tzu, etc., Columbia Univ. Press)
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Turning from the mythical to the historical record we find numerous accounts of blood from the sky. For example:
In the Census of Ireland for the year 1851, under the section entitled Table of cosmical phenomenon etc. in Ireland, under an entry for the year AD 1017 it is stated that ‘there appeared a most frightful comet for four months. The same year it rained blood . . .”
One of seven manuscripts of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle “An. DC.LXXXV “In this year there was a bloody rain in Britain. And milk and butter were turned to blood.” p. 444
In the 12th century Irish Book of Leinster, is found an interesting reference for the year 868 A.D: “Showers of blood were poured, and the clots of gore were found.”
Another medieval Irish chronicle, the Chronicum Scotorum, contains a reference to the year 878 A.D: “it rained a shower of blood, which was found in lumps of gore and blood on all the plains . . .”
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In a 14th century work entitled Polychronicon, a universal history from the creation to 1352, the author Ralph Higden, a monk, writes: “In the same time here came a strange token, such as before never came, nor never hitherto since. From heaven here came a marvelous flood; three days it rained blood, three days and three nights. That was exceeding great harm!”
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Last month’s article contained a sample of accounts of ‘blood’ raining from the sky. We have seen how in at least several cases this blood was perceived to be directly associated with comets and meteors. I ended that article with this question: What are we to make of these accounts? Surely it does not rain actual blood from the sky. Or does it?
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 4:15 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Red Rain continued...
pics from Sri Lanka:
MIT article on it....
Nat Geo vid on it....
Pink Floyd:
Both instrumental. The Marooned video is very powerful/symbolic. Highly recommend watching...
Marooned - video
Red Sky at Night - vid
Red pilled via the red rain...
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One of the first attempts to analyze the chemistry or red rain occurred in the late 19th century when it fell over Calabria, Italy. Laboratory analysis led investigators to conclude that it was, in fact, blood. This led one professor to propose that it must have been the result of a flock of birds becoming caught up somehow in a violent wind. However, there was no wind to speak of at the time and no feathers or other bird parts were ever found.
Enter modern science. In recent times two events have provided startling evidence that the ancient accounts may not be untenable at all.
On November 14/15 of 2012 a red rain was seen to fall over several provinces of Sri Lanka. Initial analysis of this rain seemed to indicate that the red color was caused by unicellular micro-organisms, presumed to be terrestrial in nature. Subsequent analysis, however, disclosed the presence of high concentrations of uranium in the outer layers of these cells. In an interview with cosmologist Chandra Wickramsinghe he states: “The concentration of uranium is not typical of earthly life forms and is another pointer to the alien origin of the red rain cells.” In addition the cells lacked phosphorous in the nuclear region which led the scientists studying them to call them extremely unusual organisms. But could there be an extraterrestrial connection? Well, the answer is yes. About 10 days before the actual rainfall there were numerous meteor and fireball sightings in the area. It was concluded by Wickramasinghe that it was entirely possible that the microbial cells could have stayed aloft until changes in atmospheric pressure and moisture were conducive their raining out
pics from Sri Lanka:
MIT article on it....
Nat Geo vid on it....
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In an April, 2013 article in the Journal of Cosmology entitled “Discovery of Uranium in Outer Coat of Sri Lankan Red Rain Cells, the authors state: “The microbial content of the red rain that fell over central Sri Lanka in November/December 2012 shows generic similarities to that of the Kerala red rain.” The Kerala red rain the authors refer to was a similar event that took place in Kerala, India in May of 2001. The rainfall was preceded almost immediately by massive sonic booms, the kind that would be generated by a bolide or large meteor exploding in the atmosphere.
“The concentration of uranium is not typical of earthly life forms and is another pointer to the alien origin of the red rain cells.”
The red cells that were conveyed to Earth in the red rain of Kerala were truly extraordinary. Among their unexpected properties were not only survivability but the ability to reproduce at temperatures up to and exceeding 600 degrees Fahrenheit! Modern cooking ovens usually have a maximum temperature of 500° F. In addition the cells have a double wall structure which serves to protect the nucleus from damage, including from ultraviolet radiation. In other words these cells are ideally suited to survive a journey through space and a fiery passage through Earth’s atmosphere. But from whence come these strange, red bloodlike cells? Patrick McCafferty , a chemical engineer and archeologist, has made an in-depth study of the red rain phenomenon throughout history. He authored an article on red rain for the International Journal of Astrobiology in 2008 in which he writes: “It was concluded that the red particles probably had an extraterrestrial origin, the result of a meteor airburst event on 25 July 2001, just hours before the red rain first started to fall. This conclusion raises the possibility that, in space, there are objects that contain red, blood-like cells. In other words, comets possibly harbour life. Such an image of a comet, containing a liquid interior teeming with red cells, is difficult to imagine and even harder to accept.”
Pink Floyd:
Both instrumental. The Marooned video is very powerful/symbolic. Highly recommend watching...
Marooned - video
Red Sky at Night - vid
Red pilled via the red rain...
Posted on 4/23/17 at 4:23 pm to PassPuntKick
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like a bolt of lightning "saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven,”.
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Let’s consider the word disaster, defined as ‘a sudden calamitous event bringing great damage, loss or destruction.’ It is composed of two roots: dis and aster. Dis in the Latin variously means apart, opposite, deprive, exclude or expel. For example, disabled means to be deprived of certain abilities, to disbar means to expel from the bar, disarray means the opposite of array, and so on. The root aster comes from astro, meaning a star, or stars. The meaning for the prefix dis that most pertains to the word disaster is expel, implying an association between an event bringing about great damage and destruction and something expelled from the stars!
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Let’s take another related example, the word catastrophe. It is defined as “a momentous tragic event ranging from extreme misfortune to utter overthrow or ruin” and “a violent and sudden change in a feature of the earth.” Take a closer look at the word. At its heart lies ‘astro’, a star! Let us take it further. Cata comes from the Greek kata, which means ‘down.’ An example of its use is found in the word ‘catacomb’ which refers to a cavern or subterranean passage below, or down, relatively speaking. The Greek word katastrophein, an etymological ancestor of catastrophe, means to overturn, or simply to turn. The word ‘strophe’ formed of the last two syllables, in Greek means ‘a turning, or whirling.’ So here we have an association of meanings in the original sense: the idea of utter overthrow or ruin, of a violent change in the Earth, directly related to the image of a star, turning or whirling down.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 4:27 pm to tarzana
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There were actually PEOPLE living that far back?
I know you are trolling, but...
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There are now two indisputable facts that confront us. The first is that the presence of modern humankind on Earth goes back a very long way. Perhaps a quarter of a million years. Skeletal remains of modern humans have been found and dated that are as much as 180 thousand years in age.
That’s 36 times as long as recorded history measured from the rise of cuneiform writing in Sumer. If we assume a generation to be 25 years more or less, then we are talking somewhere around 7000 generations of humans walking the Earth before the discovery of agriculture, or the domestication of animals, or the invention of writing, before the rise of the Old Kingdom in Egypt, or the great cities of Sumeria and the Indus Valley. It is obvious that in terms of the human experience on planet Earth, the overwhelming majority of that time has transpired within the era prehistory. Why, for so many long ages of time, was the imprint of the human presence on Earth so scarce, so insignificant as to be almost invisible before 8 or 9 thousand years ago? Assuming that those distant ancestors were endowed with intelligence equal that of our own, as we have no reason to doubt, why did it take so many tens of thousands years to learn how to build cities, or plant crops, or to invent some form of writing? Why did 7000 generations of humans never rise above the level of hunting, subsistence gathering and tribalism—never evolving socially beyond the Stone Age. Does this model make sense? And why only now, after 180 thousand years, has the human population grown exponentially just within the last two centuries?
These are impossible questions to answer within the gradualistic framework of Earth change and human history that now pervades all aspects of conventional scholarship. And this brings us to the second indisputable fact. Catastrophes are real – massive catastrophes, sudden catastrophes, global catastrophes, on any scale we care to measure, the smooth arc of change is punctuated by discontinuities, by interruptions in the established order of things.
Such an event on a global scale occurred between 11 and 13 thousand years ago. This was the termination of the geological epoch known as the Pleistocene and the start of the Holocene.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 4:32 pm to ThinePreparedAni
If you want a very long read about all of this stuff, I have been posting all of this content in the old anchored thread here
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Start on this page and follow my posts. We get slightly off topic here and there, but I promise it will be interesting reading
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Start on this page and follow my posts. We get slightly off topic here and there, but I promise it will be interesting reading
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