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re: Anyone else becoming more Libertarian?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:37 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:37 pm to Darth_Vader
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It was supposed to be complete after 2016 but that didn’t work.
like I said
societal checks and balances
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:39 pm to Salmon
Yup.
Like how we became cool with the Patriot Act
Like how we became cool with the Patriot Act
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:39 pm to meansonny
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No one has provided me with a libertarian definition of open boarders, yet.
What’s a boarder?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:40 pm to red sox fan 13
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My point is though there are a lot of people who say they are libertarian, and then want to turn around and ban a bunch of shite. Not how it works.
I mean, you can be a libertarian and not want porous borders or abortion to be allowed.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:40 pm to Joshjrn
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You have to be a special kind of stupid to think the world is a dichotomy of Trumpists and Progressives, which is the only way you can end up with the idea that libertarian = progressive
Haha... what a maroon! All I know is that you absolutely hate Trump and pretend to be this intellectual voice when all you are is a little liberal soldier who probably embarresses your parents. So go frick yourself you little ignorant piece of shite.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:40 pm to Darth_Vader
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He started the process, laid the groundwork. It was supposed to be complete after 2016 but that didn’t work.
It humors me that Republicans don’t see the parallels between their chicken littles and those of climate alarmists. No matter how far we walk, ruin is always just over the horizon.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:40 pm to LSUZombie
Libertarian are just Republicans that don’t want to admit it
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:41 pm to Bloodworth
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Haha... what a maroon! All I know is that you absolutely hate Trump and pretend to be this intellectual voice when all you are is a little liberal soldier who probably embarresses your parents. So go frick yourself you little ignorant piece of shite.
Oh my, that melt put your last melt to shame. Well done
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:43 pm to Sun God
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I didn’t mind Obama at all but what is happening right now is unprecedented. Wild shite.
What’s happing “now”, is not nothing new. The seeds for what’s happening now have been being planted for decades in our schools and especially universities. What’s happening now has been fostered, supported, and promoted by the media.
The cancer of progressivism has been growing in this country for over a century. They use to call themselves “liberals”. What’s funny is back then they would get offended if you called them a socialist or communist. But they knew what they were. The only thing that’s just now starting to happen is they’ve dropped all pretense, the mask is off. Now they are in the open and proudly proclaim to be what what some of us have known them to be all along, communist. And their ultimate goal is nothing short of the complete overthrow of our current form of government and the establishment of a communist state.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:44 pm to Joshjrn
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Oh my, that melt put your last melt to shame. Well done
Wait... that’s the best you got!!! Hahahaha. You’re the snow flake! You know all about melting. Hahahaha! Too funny.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:48 pm to LSUZombie
libertarians are weak
at least the libs take a stand
they are crazy but committed
libers are just weak minded democrat want to beeees
at least the libs take a stand
they are crazy but committed
libers are just weak minded democrat want to beeees
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:49 pm to Bloodworth
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Wait... that’s the best you got!!! Hahahaha. You’re the snow flake! You know all about melting. Hahahaha! Too funny.
Best I’ve got in response to what? You said I hate Trump, which isn’t true. I don’t care enough about him to hate him. You said I was a liberal soldier, which I’m not. And then you said I’m an embarrassment to my parents, which might be the most childish, pathetic bit of drivel I’ve seen posted on TD in weeks, which is a hell of a bar to get over. If you though that justified some elaborate, thought out response, you were sadly mistaken
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:50 pm to LSUMIKE70
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libers are just weak minded democrat want to beeees
I always enjoy when, in the same thread, libertarians are called both fake republicans and democrats
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:53 pm to LSUZombie
I’m becoming more convinced that all nations need to recognize Jesus Christ as the King of kings and the Lord of lords and that all power is derived from Him. All nations need to govern in that light.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:53 pm to LSUZombie
LINK ]Secession Begins at Home.....
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Frankly, any notion of a libertarian takeover of the political apparatus in DC is fantasy, and even if a political sea change did occur the army of 4.3 million federal employees is not simply going to disappear.
Convincing Americans to adopt a libertarian political system — even if such an oxymoron were possible — is a hopeless endeavor in our current culture.
Politics is a trailing indicator. Culture leads, politics follows. There cannot be a political sea change in America unless and until there is a philosophical, educational, and cultural sea change. Over the last 100 years progressives have overtaken education, media, fine arts, literature, and pop culture — and thus as a result they have overtaken politics. Not the other way around.
This is why our movement, the libertarian movement, must be a battle for hearts and minds. It must be an intellectual revolution of ideas, because right now bad ideas run the world. We can’t expect a libertarian political miracle to occur in an illibertarian society.
Now please don’t get me wrong. The philosophy of liberty is growing around the world, and I believe we are winning hearts and minds. This is a time for boldness, not pessimism.
Yet libertarianism will never be a mass —which is to say majority — political movement.
Some people will always support the state, and we shouldn’t kid ourselves about this. It may be due to genetic traits, environmental factors, family influences, bad schools, media influences, or simply an innate human desire to seek the illusion of security.
But we make a fatal mistake when we dilute our message to seek approval from people who seemingly are hardwired to oppose us. And we waste precious time and energy.
What’s important is not convincing those who fundamentally disagree with us, but the degree to which we can extract ourselves from their political control.
This is why secession is a tactically superior approach in my view: it is far less daunting to convince liberty-minded people to walk away from the state than to convince those with a statist mindset to change.
.... Secession Begins With You
Ultimately, the wisdom of secession starts and ends with the individual. Bad ideas run the world, but must they run your world?
The question we all have to ask ourselves is this: how seriously do we take the right of self-determination, and what are we willing to do in our personal lives to assert it?
Secession really begins at home, with the actions we all take in our everyday lives to distance and remove ourselves from state authority — quietly, nonviolently, inexorably.
The state is crumbling all around us, under the weight of its own contradictions, its own fiscal mess, and its own monetary system. We don’t need to win control of DC.
What we need to do, as people seeking more freedom and a better life for future generations, is to walk away from DC, and make sure we don’t go down with it.
How To Secede Right Now
....let me make a few humble suggestions for beginning a journey of personal secession. Not all of these may apply to your personal circumstances; no one but you can decide what’s best for you and your family. But all of us can play a role in a bottom-up revolution by doing everything in our power to withdraw our consent from the state:
*Secede from intellectual isolation. Talk to like-minded friends, family, and neighbors — whether physically or virtually — to spread liberty and cultivate relationships and alliances.
*The state prefers to have us atomized, without a strong family structure or social network; secede from dependency.
*Become as self-sufficient as possible with regard to food, water, fuel, cash, firearms, and physical security at home.
*Take advantage of a luxury previous generations did not enjoy; secede from state control of your children by homeschooling or unschooling them; secede from college by rejecting mainstream academia and its student loan trap.
*Educate yourself using online learning platforms, obtaining technical credentials, or simply by reading as much as you can;
*Resist being reliant on government in the event of a natural disaster, bank crisis, or the like; secede from mainstream media, which promotes the state in a million different ways.
*Secede from cable, ditch CNN, ditch the major newspapers, and find your own sources of information in this internet age.
*Secede from the US dollar by owning physical precious metals, by owning assets denominated in foreign currencies, and by owning assets abroad;
*Secede from the federal tax and regulatory regimes by organizing your business and personal affairs to be as tax efficient and unobtrusive as possible;
*Secede from the legal system, by legally protecting your assets from rapacious lawsuits and probate courts as much as possible;
*Secede from the state healthcare racket by taking control of your health, and questioning medical orthodoxy;
*Secede from your state by moving to another with a better tax and regulatory environment, better homeschooling laws, better gun laws, or just one with more liberty-minded people;
*Secede from political uncertainly in the US by obtaining a second passport; or
secede from the US altogether by expatriating.
*Most of all, secede from the mindset that government is all-powerful or too formidable an opponent to be overcome. The state is nothing more than Frédéric Bastiat’s great fiction, or Murray Rothbard’s gang of thieves writ large. Let’s not give it the power to make us unhappy or pessimistic.
All of us, regardless of ideological bent and regardless of whether we know it or not, are married to a very violent, abusive spendthrift. It’s time, ladies and gentlemen, to get a divorce from DC.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:54 pm to Salmon
quote:. Not when tens of millions of illegals get amnesty & then voting rights
this country goes in cycles from progressive to conservative to progressive to conservative
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:54 pm to Joshjrn
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Best I’ve got in response to what? You said I hate Trump, which isn’t true. I don’t care enough about him to hate him. You said I was a liberal soldier, which I’m not. And then you said I’m an embarrassment to my parent, which might be the most childish, pathetic bit of drivel I’ve seen posted on TD in weeks, which is a hell of a bar to get over. If you though that justified some elaborate, thought out response, you were sadly mistaken
Truce... I was out of line for attacking. My apologies. I am glad you don’t hate Trump. Anyway I hope we are able to retain the traits that made America what it is. Peace and TTYL!
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:55 pm to FooManChoo
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I’m becoming more convinced that all nations need to recognize Jesus Christ as the King of kings and the Lord of lords and that all power is derived from Him. All nations need to govern in that light.
Well frick, this has been moved to the PT. It’s going to be all downhill from here
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:55 pm to Bloodworth
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Truce... I was out of line for attacking. My apologies. I am glad you don’t hate Trump. Anyway I hope we are able to retain the traits that made America what it is. Peace and TTYL!
No worries, mate. Apology accepted
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:13 pm to LSUZombie
It would be hard for me to be MORE libertarian.
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