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re: ATL Fed - 4Q18 GDP Projections fall to 1.4%

Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:02 pm to
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I think a lot of analysts are pessimistic right now. You can see that pessimism reflected in the markets. The global economy is slowing a lot and most projections are for weaker earnings in 1Q19. All of this has nothing to do with my opinions about our president.



It’s crazy how any attempt to raise rates starts to rattle the markets. Europe isn’t ending ZIRP/QE any time soon if the US is a case study. Even Trump started bitching when our market dropped 15 erasing the gains from the last 12 months. We recovered which shows it was a bit artificial, but it’ll be worse for Europe when they start trying to return to normal.

Even with our economy firing on all cycllnders, we can barely handle it. When the bond market crashes, over priced equities are still going to be every where, and we are gonna be fuuuucked.
Posted by BayouBengal12112015
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:19 pm to
The next GDP will come out on the 28th of February?
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:22 pm to
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I personally think its mostly due to interest rates increasing and I doubt it helps millenials that much.
Heard some idiot, I mean expert, on the radio today claim it's due to a lack of houses on the market.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:23 pm to
Yeah this is a very good point. An economy that cannot take 25 bps raises during strong growth and low unemployment has some serious problems — and no I am not saying Trump is the cause of most of this
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:27 pm to
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Heard some idiot, I mean expert, on the radio today claim it's due to a lack of houses on the market.
This is pretty much the consensus. Single-family new builds are low and baby boomers who would typically downsize and sell their homes at this age are reluctant to sell due to being locked in to historically low rates.

Why is that idiotic?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134307 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:27 pm to
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An economy that cannot take 25 bps raises during strong growth and low unemployment has some serious problems.
But rates haven't been raised by 25 basis points.

It's been 200 basis points in increases in the last two years.

ETA: It's becoming more apparent you've got an agenda.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:34 pm to
What does 4Q GDP need to be to be 3% for the year?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:35 pm to
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You can see that pessimism reflected in the markets.


Pessimism is due to concerns that Democrats are more interested in looking into President and locking down the rule making process than working together. This started a couple of months before the Mid-term elections
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:36 pm to
Why do you want crap growth?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:37 pm to
Check out the interest rates around the world. If you are feeling lucky you can get 24% or better on the dollar in Turkey. LINK

In Japan you pay them for the pleasure of lending them money.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140136 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:38 pm to
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The next GDP will come out on the 28th of February?


Yes.

LINK
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:38 pm to
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What does 4Q GDP need to be to be 3% for the year?



I believe 3% and change. The annual growth is not the average of the 4 quarters. So we're not gonna hit 3% for the year.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:39 pm to
That makes about as much sense as tits on a pig.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140136 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:42 pm to
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What does 4Q GDP need to be to be 3% for the year?


Above three. I believe 3.2% IIRC.

You can run the numbers and check this if you'd like. Here's the formula. LINK
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73698 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:45 pm to
I don’t get why growth slowed so much in 4th quarter

We were well on our way to 3% growth for first time since 2005. Sites like marketwatch were treating it as a given

Then 4th quarter happened....

Oh well
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134307 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:48 pm to
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I don’t get why growth slowed so much in 4th quarter

The House of Representatives flipped in early November. A lot of businesses started conserving cash to prepare for the anti-business HoR.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:54 pm to
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What does 4Q GDP need to be to be 3% for the year?
About 3.63%
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140136 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:03 pm to
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I don’t get why growth slowed so much in 4th quarter

We were well on our way to 3% growth for first time since 2005. Sites like marketwatch were treating it as a given

Then 4th quarter happened....

Oh well




Its a good question because we had blow retail sales for the holidays. Maybe the cold and wet weather dampened construction activity.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:12 pm to
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Heard some idiot, I mean expert, on the radio today claim it's due to a lack of houses on the market.


lack of inventory is a big issue. But house prices falling is not due to lack of inventory.

Heck, in quitea few areas we are seeing a spike in inventory.
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:13 pm to
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This is pretty much the consensus. Single-family new builds are low and baby boomers who would typically downsize and sell their homes at this age are reluctant to sell due to being locked in to historically low rates.

Why is that idiotic?
Because it all depends on location. There are loads of homes for sale in some areas...because people do not want to be there. And the hot markets where people DO want to be are of course short because of the current demand.

Would expect to see greater availability of homes in NY with the recent tax structure changes and movement away from there. Of course the demand for homes in FL exceeds the availability for the same reasons. Location, location, location.

People are fleeing CA so the availability should be increasing in CA, and decreasing in CO, TX., etc.(the destination locations).
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