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re: Ben Shapiro :Difficult to imagine a more incompetent policy rollout
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:08 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:08 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Is Ben aware of Israel's Immigration policies? For sure he is or he wouldn't have typed that out.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:08 pm to tigerinDC09
Lil' cuck speaks!
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:08 pm to Wtodd
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Ben Shapiro :Difficult to imagine a more incompetent policy rollout
Obamacare says what about me
Good point.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:08 pm to tigerinDC09
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yeah and the permanent psychological damage to kids, so there's that too.
Which is why we should do everything in our power to discourage the dangerous journey, not encourage it. Don’t be heartless.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:09 pm to TigerDoc
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the son of a Polish holocaust survivor
Holy crap. Doc you should be ashamed. how insukting to compare what is happening at the southern border to what holocaust victims went through. That is pretty damn disgusting.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:09 pm to tigerinDC09
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The flow of migrants hasn't slowed at all since the implementation of the zero tolerance policy.
So what? You don't build a damn on a river that makes the river run dry.
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yeah and the permanent psychological damage to kids, so there's that too.
If you cared about the permanent psychological damage to kids, then you would prioritize a policy that deterred and prevented child sex trafficking above all else. A child being separated from their parents isn't great, but that "damage" will never come close to the psychological damage of a child being raped because liberals like you want to return to catch and release.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:10 pm to tigerinDC09
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Trump implemented a new policy several weeks ago. He's seems to be adjusting that policy change with his "executive order
Do you know what "stipulated removal" is?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:10 pm to tigerinDC09
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Pretty much agree here.
It was a FUBAR'd effort. The splitting up family thing is a bad look. I don't see why families can't be kept together for the duration.....by duration I mean while they are adjudicated and deported.
I want zero tolerance for illegal immigration and really don't give a shite but the splitting up families thing was sure to blow-up.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Documents, which refer to the effort as the "Prosecution Initiative," demonstrate that in early April, days after President Donald Trump announced he would send the National Guard to the border and after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced his offices would prosecute all illegal crossings referred to the Justice Department, Homeland Security staff predicted that the deterrent effects of the policies would be visible quickly.
"The full impact of policy initiatives are not fully realized for 2-3 weeks following public messaging -- however, some migrants already underway may temporarily halt to determine the effects of the new policy," the document states.
Instead, publicly released data showed a roughly 5% uptick in the number of people caught crossing the border illegally when compared to figures from April, including a big jump in unaccompanied children.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:11 pm to tigerinDC09
Do you know what "stipulated removal" is?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:12 pm to tigerinDC09
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permanent psychological damage to kids
The unaccompanied ones? Or the ones who aren't being imprisoned with their parents?
Just trying to figure out which way the winds are blowing.
Are you for imprisoning the kids with the parents?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:13 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:Ben shapiro in the tweet you posted is NOT arguing on the merits of the policy itself. He is arguing about how the admin did not defend it properly or sell it adequately.
tigerinDC09
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:14 pm to 14&Counting
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It was a FUBAR'd effort. The splitting up family thing is a bad look. I don't see why families can't be kept together for the duration.....by duration I mean while they are adjudicated and deported.
We can disagree on some of the specifics of immigration, but I'm glad to see we agree that these families should be kept together no matter what.
Yes, deport them together if they cross illegally together. If they seek asylum together process their claim together and either accept or deny their claim together.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:15 pm to BBONDS25
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Holy crap. Doc you should be ashamed. how insukting to compare what is happening at the southern border to what holocaust victims went through. That is pretty damn disgusting.
Just quoted Cohen's email, my dude. I will concede though that one should probably not put a lot of stock in Michael Cohen historical analogies.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The policy itself is working as it was intended.
the issue is the optics
The issue is the lack of morality displayed by those supporting the policy.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:15 pm to BBONDS25
They won't acknowledge this point either.
They'd rather put blame on Trump, then the parents of these children who know they are putting them at risk.
And the parents can fix this themselves if they wanted to!
It's disgusting and not surprising to say the least.
They'd rather put blame on Trump, then the parents of these children who know they are putting them at risk.
And the parents can fix this themselves if they wanted to!
It's disgusting and not surprising to say the least.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:15 pm to tigerinDC09
Get this soy off of my poliboard
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Ben shapiro in the tweet you posted is NOT arguing on the merits of the policy itself. He is arguing about how the admin did not defend it properly or sell it adequately.
that's why i'm saying I largely agree with him. I'm sure we'll disagree on the merits, but we agree that this rollout was a disaster. Just as we would agree that the original Obamacare rollout was a disaster.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:16 pm to BamaAtl
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The issue is the lack of morality displayed by those supporting the policy.
It’s laughable to talk about morals of others when you display none. It’s why no one takes you seriously.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:17 pm to 14&Counting
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It was a FUBAR'd effort. The splitting up family thing is a bad look. I don't see why families can't be kept together for the duration.....by duration I mean while they are adjudicated and deported.
I want zero tolerance for illegal immigration and really don't give a shite but the splitting up families thing was sure to blow-up.
It makes sense from the perspective of preventing child trafficking.
There are currently 20,000 children being held in these detention centers, 18,000 were caught essentially without an adult/parent at all. These were children being trafficked.
The decision to also place children that were caught with parents is safe if you admit that there is no way we can know for sure if all these children are ACTUALLY with their real parent. Sure. You will separate actual parents from their real children, but you will also stop a future rape victim from child sex trafficking from slipping through the cracks.
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