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Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1958 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:29 pm to
So basically if it’s proven that the election is stolen, we’re still stuck with Biden. And we come back with a vengeance in 22 and thereafter?

Meanwhile Biden is essentially a lame duck?

I guess that’s great but all this crap I’m reading about “game changing” or “explosive news” is just hyperbole to make us feel good?

Geigh.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35532 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:41 pm to
If it's not shown that the recent Leftist revisions and amendments and additions to election laws/regulations yielded fraudulent, illegitimate, inaccurate and/or illegal results, then how strong will the argument be to "fix" all of those things?

These actions are simply necessary to justify the push for the various proposed overhauls.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:43 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10665 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:42 pm to
My hope is that a complete lack of trust in government happens.

The more that people wake up and start to hate government and start to see how absolutely fricking corrupt they are, the better off society will be.
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
970 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

The analogy is to say that everything that happened after the F up is undoable… not to make light of the situation


Being a majority LSU/Saints fan board, you should've brought up the no-call PI in the Saints vs Rams a couple years ago as an analogy. Would've hit much closer to home for many

I understand what you were trying to say, but it still doesn't apply. There wasn't anything left up to "chance" as other states had their vote totals in on election night. The other states' EV totals were known, so it's not like there was a "chance" they could magically change based on what happened in AZ, GA, PA, etc.

What would get REALLY interesting is every state doing a forensic audit.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14858 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:53 pm to
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He should not. But realistically, do you see Trump actually being installed as President? I don’t.


People who think a proven fraudulent election would just be an "oh well" moment for 4 years have lost thair minds... How does this remotely make sense...?
So, if you are proven to have gotten away with the crime of the century it's just, meh? Congrats?
No fricking way.
The people who voted for Trump would start a war...
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54855 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:53 pm to
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Biden could get on stage and admit he stole it and it still wouldn’t put Trump back in. There is zero percent chance of that happening.



Which shows how vulnerable our political and electoral system truly is to mass election fraud.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21234 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

I’ve been following this but I don’t fully understand the end game


The Dems threw everything they had on the table to beat Trump. They cheated every which way they possibly could. The dead voted, ballots were harvested, ballot boxes were stuffed and established election laws were tossed aside. However, they were so blatant on obvious about it that it’s raised suspicion beyond questioning the results. States are now actively investigating the results and auditing the election. They made one massive mistake though. They did all of these shenanigans in states controlled by republicans! Regardless of how the Republican establishment in these states feel about Trump, there isn’t any way in hell they are going to sit idly by while Dems get away with what they did. The voters in those states aren’t going to let the gop just surrender their election integrity to the Dems. The end game is that I think you’ll see a whole bunch of states let their nuts hang the way DeSantis did in Florida and run some of these crooked arse election officials out of town.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:59 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21251 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:27 am to
What’s hard to understand. Fraud eviscerates everything.

The constitution isn’t intended for what we can do but what the government can do to us. Any other election would be a do over. So precedent is set for lower level positions even federal that there will be another election. But if you prove enough fraud one way maybe you just overturn and decertify and go to the state legislatures for a 1 vote per state. Essentially what Trump was wanting done on Jan 6th. Appeal to the congress to hold off because some states were going to decertify their electors.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20791 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:01 am to
This is only the tip of the iceberg.
The US is run by a corrupt massive of criminal politicians, government agencies, the Fed, big corporate and tech.
Situation is beyond critical stage and well into their end game of 109% control of our lives with elimination of the middle class and small business.
The water in the pot is now boiling and the frogs are all about to die.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 3:02 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
81138 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:02 am to

The best use of the audits is to build a groundswell of support for election reforms that features transparency, security and credibility.
Posted by DaTiger
Some place warm....
Member since Jul 2005
1696 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:44 am to
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I tend to agree with this. So what is the point?


The point is that examples need to be made. Personally I like the Mussolini model.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4485 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:19 am to
quote:

The best use of the audits is to build a groundswell of support for election reforms that features transparency, security and credibility.
And who will communicate this transparency? Will the people who receive this message consider the facts and use logic to process the information? If they believe fraud occurred what will they do if their representatives, government agencies, and media sources do not support change?

Facts don't matter here. TDS is real. While everyone is scrambling to 'uncover' and 'get evidence' of fraud which we all know occurred, those on the left and those in power will just shrug their shoulders and tell you, the people, to frick off.

I hope there are enough state representatives with the balls to do something to make all of our enemies uncomfortable but from what I've seen there is no reason to believe there is enough support to do anything. We all know we are fricked and that our Republic has been compromised. The thing is, the other side(s) know it too. They just don't give a frick and evidence won't suddenly make them develop morals, ethics, or a conscience.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15986 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:39 am to
quote:

It is possible to get DJT back in. What are the logistics? Does all Xidens EO’s go away? Does Trump’s term start from Jan or from when he’s reinstated?


I tend to say that biden will remain president.

Now if the audits show amazing levels of fraud, I'm not sure.

Imagine if audits are finished and they are off by a million in every state. Let's say Trump won each of these states by 1 million votes? I'm not really sure.

I don't think that will be the case. I think in many cases the fraud is just ballot harvesting. That would be much more difficult to prove.

Now what could happen is if they find evidence of fraud against Trump they might look into the senate races. Congressional seats have been overturned in the past.

That could change control of congress.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:41 am to
It won't stop them from cheating again. The Dems are crazy but not stupid, they will find ways to keep potato brain in office now and in 24 if he doesn't pass away.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 6:52 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29618 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:47 am to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:51 am to
We can't have a fake president in office if that is the case. If we do then we just accepted that it is normal and the Dems will keep pushing buttons on the fraud machine. No opposition will ever sit in the White House.

Election reform? The Dems laugh as they continue to taunt and find loopholes to any reformed future elections.
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24583 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:03 am to
Elections have consequences.

Fraudulent elections should have severe consequences.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35532 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:03 am to
quote:

It won't stop them from cheating again.

I think that's an accurate statement.

However, I do actually believe that with their propensity to overplay their hand, if their previous actions are brought into the sunlight, it will put a great deal pressure on them to be more discreet, the type of pressure they didn't have to deal with before. They're due for a very serious implosion, and that added pressure will hopefully hasten it.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70238 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Like in baseball. If an ump calls a fair ball foul, you can’t go back redo it



that is why instant replay has been out into sports


and the most important thing to me is to find out every person involved in the fraud and lock them up.

that would help ensure honest elections I. the future
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24201 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:09 am to
Not just senate. As much cheating as it appears went on the House May be flipped as well.
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