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re: Bill's Hamlin had a Cardiac Arrest
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:48 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:48 am to Mickey Goldmill
Of course you “know”
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:03 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Good for DH if true. Prognostically, the need for a second resuscitation would be grim.
That statement was corrected.
Do you have a link?
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:19 pm to SoDakHawk
The spike protein load from Covid was not a concern with healthy young athletes given that they would follow protocol.
The vax creates are far greater scenario in the volume of production, recovery & vulnerability via the proteins. Magnify that with boosters.
That is the real science & not the fear agenda falsely propagated by the B10 commish & his framers.
The vax creates are far greater scenario in the volume of production, recovery & vulnerability via the proteins. Magnify that with boosters.
That is the real science & not the fear agenda falsely propagated by the B10 commish & his framers.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:19 pm to NC_Tigah
https://www.today.com/health/news/damar-hamlin-commotio-cordis-rcna64026
quote:
CLARIFICATION (Jan. 4, 2023, 11:28 a.m. ET): This article previously stated that Glenn said Hamlin was resuscitated twice. Glenn misspoke, as Hamlin was only resuscitated once on the field, Jordon Rooney, a friend of Hamlin’s speaking on the family’s behalf, told NBC News on Jan. 4. The article has been updated to reflect this.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Thanks Mickey.
CLARIFICATION (Jan. 4, 2023, 11:28 a.m. ET): This article previously stated that Glenn said Hamlin was resuscitated twice. Glenn misspoke, as Hamlin was only resuscitated once on the field, Jordon Rooney, a friend of Hamlin’s speaking on the family’s behalf, told NBC News on Jan. 4. The article has been updated to reflect this.
Good for Hamlin!
Interestingly, Today still has several "Second Resuscitation" links up on their site.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:57 pm to NC_Tigah
A lot of articles everywhere still do. This little clarification will probably be lost in history lol.
Sounds like really good news that they were able to lower his oxygen level to 50%. I think the biggest fear right now is brain damage depending on how long he was out.
Sounds like really good news that they were able to lower his oxygen level to 50%. I think the biggest fear right now is brain damage depending on how long he was out.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:58 pm to jp4lsu
quote:
But this wasn't a hard hit.
It's two elite level athletes smacking into each other at full speed.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:03 pm to BurntOrangeMan
The point is that when it comes to Covid and these spike proteins the liberal establishment, like the Big Ten, has already admitted to the risk of heart issues during competition. Now they are just trying to roll it back. Nothing to see here. It was contact related.
Why are they doing that?
We know why. There is something more going on here with Covid, the vax, and a cover up.
Why are they doing that?
We know why. There is something more going on here with Covid, the vax, and a cover up.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:FTR, I don't think that's accurate either.
Sounds like really good news that they were able to lower his oxygen level to 50%.
The "blood in the lungs" business could possibly reference NPPE (pulmonary edema) which could require increased vent support. But it's normally a short-lived pblm (~24hrs). Even in an extraordinary instance of NPPE, Hamlin would not have required ventilation on 100% O2, and there's really no reason he'd need to be on 50% O2 now. I suspect the 50% reference is to vent support settings (volume/rate/PEEP) being used.
So what that tells us is DH is doing some of his own breathing. While some breathing better than the alternative, in terms of brain damage, breathing is not a higher cortical function.
As they lighten sedation they'll assess DH (e.g., Glascow Coma Scale) for function and response. I'd guess the "improvement" the Uncle refers to is an increasing GCS score.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:33 pm to Stonehog
Still waiting on any link to someone rooting for him to die…
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:37 pm to BurntOrangeMan
quote:
The spike protein load from Covid was not a concern with healthy young athletes given that they would follow protocol.
Wanna see healthy young athletes drop from heart issues?
Twitter Video
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:40 pm to BurntOrangeMan
quote:
The spike protein load from Covid was not a concern with healthy young athletes given that they would follow protocol.
The vax creates are far greater scenario in the volume of production, recovery & vulnerability via the proteins. Magnify that with boosters.
That is the real science & not the fear agenda falsely propagated by the B10 commish & his framers.
Exactly. Why push someone with nearly 0% risk from COVID to get the Vax?
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:53 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
FTR, I don't think that's accurate either.
The "blood in the lungs" business could possibly reference NPPE (pulmonary edema) which could require increased vent support. But it's normally a short-lived pblm (~24hrs). Even in an extraordinary instance of NPPE, Hamlin would not have required ventilation on 100% O2, and there's really no reason he'd need to be on 50% O2 now. I suspect the 50% reference is to vent support settings (volume/rate/PEEP) being used.
So what that tells us is DH is doing some of his own breathing. While some breathing better than the alternative, in terms of brain damage, breathing is not a higher cortical function.
As they lighten sedation they'll assess DH (e.g., Glascow Coma Scale) for function and response. I'd guess the "improvement" the Uncle refers to is an increasing GCS score.
I'll take your word for it. You sound like you know a lot more about medicine than I do
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:56 pm to Bayou Brat
Most of the clips in that video occur before vaccines.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:01 pm to TbirdSpur2010
A Cardiologist's perspective... Medpage Today
quote:
There's lots of speculation about what could have caused this. The most common reason somebody has a cardiac arrest is that they have an underlying cardiac condition: either coronary artery disease, which is less likely in a young person, or that they have an underlying, unsuspected cardiomyopathy. Cardiomyopathy is a problem with the muscle of the heart and one of the most common reasons why somebody has a cardiac arrest -- a young person with unsuspected heart disease -- is a condition called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.
quote:
Commotio cordis is a cardiac arrest after a blunt force trauma to the chest. It is thought that when the object, usually a ball, hits the chest, it hits it in a vulnerable cycle of the heart so that it begins an electrical instability and an arrhythmia, which we call ventricular fibrillation.
quote:
It's certainly hard to know just by looking at the video tapes. Commotio cordis is very unusual, it's rare. It has been described primarily with trauma to the chest with a ball, like a baseball or a softball, and tends to occur in young males, young being 15 or 16, that younger age. The reason for that is their chests haven't developed as much, so they're more susceptible to the blunt force of a ball.
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but we have no way of knowing with the information that we have now.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:19 pm to deathvalleytiger10
quote:
A Cardiologist's perspective...
Yup, nailed it. No one knows for sure but como cordis is not at the top of the list of most likely causes.
Como cordis was floated by MSM & their “experts” for one specific reason & its not one of genuineness.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:22 pm to BurntOrangeMan
quote:
No one knows for sure
Correct.
quote:
como cordis is not at the top of the list of most likely causes
Incorrect
Posted on 1/4/23 at 5:10 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Count me in the questioning, undecided camp.
Incorrect
The main impact vector was transpulmonary to the left lateral chest, not precordium. Not classic at all for commotio cordis. Six seconds of deliberate activity followed before loss of consciousness. Not classic at all for commotio cordis.
I can layout an explanatory physiologic cascade involving cardiac concussion as a catalyst with subsequent rhythm transition. I guess it's possible. But laying it out it involves some imagination.
McCullough suggested an adrenaline surge +/- myocarditis. That is possible as well, I guess. The way Hamlin hopped back up, a vagotonic event could be at play as well.
Regardless, IMO this is an underlying abnormal heart until proven otherwise.
To be clear, a cardiac abnormality doesn't necessarily tie DH's collapse to the vax at all. However, the fact the vax might be related scares the everliving Hell out of Covidians, our Media, and the NFL. They are desperate to avoid the discussion.
I feel a little sorry for Tee Higgins in this story, because there is a chance this event had nothing whatsoever to do with him at all.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 5:12 pm
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