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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:28 pm to
How can anyone take this guy seriously? Just pay back your shite.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:29 pm to
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“I believe that the Court’s decision to strike down our student debt relief plan is wrong,” Biden said in a statement.




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“But I will stop at nothing to find other ways to deliver relief to hard-working middle-class families. My Administration will continue to work to bring the promise of higher education to every American.”




Notwithstanding the quotes around this schitt, he didn't say any of this crap.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:29 pm to
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I also believe that business loans stabilized businesses until the economy improved




PPP was scam city, my naive friend.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:33 pm to
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He’s not wrong here.


I think he is.


Weren't these loans to businesses primarily used to keep the workers the government harmed by their COVID policy employed?

keeping innocent workers employed and the economy hobbling along due to government shenanigans seems more "worthy" than relief for dolts who agreed to loans and now desire relief from their foolish actions.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:33 pm to
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PPP was scam city, my naive friend.

Way to totally miss the point.

But while you're laughing, direct me to the SC case weighing in on the legality of PPP.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:34 pm to
This was their plan from day one - do an unconstitutional action - Even Nancy said it was - Blame the GOP when the court has to do it's job.

It is a pretty smart move because, as we know, libs are statistically low IQ and uneducated (not talking about universities and majors that make you dumber) but in real life. He knows his voters will do what ever msnbc tells them to believe.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Weren't these loans to businesses primarily used to keep the workers the government harmed by their COVID policy employed?

keeping innocent workers employed and the economy hobbling along due to government shenanigans seems more "worthy" than relief for dolts who agreed to loans and now desire relief from their foolish actions.

I'll take one more shot at this, then move on.

He's not calling the sky screamers hypocrites for supporting PPP loans. He's calling them hypocrites for supporting PPP loan FORGIVENESS.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:37 pm to

Ah, the socialist "free stuff" lure.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:41 pm to
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They had no problem with billions in pandemic-related loans to businesses – including hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars for their own businesses. And those loans were forgiven,”


Wait, what?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:44 pm to
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Wait, what?

Yea. PPP loans were 4x that on average of student loan forgiveness and nearly all of them were forgiven. Silence.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37270 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:45 pm to
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president will also make “crystal clear” to student loan borrowers that “Republicans are responsible for denying them the relief that President Biden has been fighting to get to them,” according to the source.


Unreal. This is how Dems alway win.

They never were going to forgive student loans. All they have to do is pretend, pander and then blame Republicans for the “failure”
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:47 pm to
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“The hypocrisy of Republican elected officials is stunning. They had no problem with billions in pandemic-related loans to businesses – including hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars for their own businesses. And those loans were forgiven,” he said.


Judas Priest. The balls on this motherfricker.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:48 pm to
I don’t think it’s irrational to think that the left, specifically the Democrats in highest levels, are just a step or two away from disregarding the judiciary and judicial processes altogether, just cut it out of the equation, and effectuate their wishes and intentions in other ways. Meaning that they would simply outright ignore any pronouncements coming from any judicial system including the Supreme Court.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88395 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:49 pm to
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PPP loans were 4x that on average of student loan forgiveness and nearly all of them were forgiven. Silence.


Government broke it; government bought it.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3646 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:50 pm to
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It's not a gotcha. PPP were touted as loans. These loans were distributed using tax payer money. Problem is, many of these loans were forgiven completely. Find me the congressman who decried PPP loan forgiveness.

Ask any CPA about the first round, or any round for that matter, of PPP loans and ask if they ever thought they would not be forgiven. Everyone knew they would be forgiven as long as you met their demand of using for employee payroll. Nobody took out a PPP loan that thought it would need to be paid back.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:50 pm to
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Weren't these loans to businesses primarily used to buy vacation homes and toys for the ownership class and further explode the housing market bubble


FTFY
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88395 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:52 pm to
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I don’t think it’s irrational to think that the left, specifically the Democrats in highest levels, are just a step or two away from disregarding the judiciary and judicial processes altogether, just cut it out of the equation, and effectuate their wishes and intentions in other ways. Meaning that they would simply outright ignore any pronouncements coming from any judicial system including the Supreme Court.


We’re pretty much there now.

As I said last night, to the left, the courts exist to affirm their positions; when they don’t do that, they simply ignore the rulings.

We’re effectively at the point where only one side is playing by the agreed-upon set of rules. And that can’t end well.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10455 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Yea. PPP loans were 4x that on average of student loan forgiveness and nearly all of them were forgiven. Silence.


So what about the majority of us who didn't take out PPP loans or student loans, but here we are paying for them.

Also, the government shutdown or severely impacted these businesses from operations, so they are at some level of culpability.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40695 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:56 pm to
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But while you're laughing, direct me to the SC case weighing in on the legality of PPP.


Yikes. For the big one, PPP was authorized by Congress passing the CARES Act and signed into law by the President, something the Democrats could have done between 2021 and 2023 when they controlled the House, Senate, and the Presidency but chose not to do.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26454 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:05 pm to
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The president will make clear he’s not done fighting yet and will announce new actions to protect student loan borrowers.”


Protect them from what?

Repaying what they intentionally borrowed knowing they would have to repay? From from having to be responsible for their choices? From the burden of completing their higher education and having to pay for it?

Remind me, why should anyone else other than the borrower have the responsibility of repaying these loans?

“Because I’m not responsible” is not a fricking reason.
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