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re: BREAKING: Trump hints US could 'pull out of NATO' over Greenland
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:02 pm to LetsGoBrandon
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:02 pm to LetsGoBrandon
Perfect. We should leave NATO, take all of our equipment and technology, and forge a new alliance with European nations that actually respect us. France, Germany and Britain no longer fall into the latter.
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:02 pm to tide06
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Why do we need to forward position troops in Europe in 2026?
I guess if we don’t need it right now we never will.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:03 pm to Indefatigable
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What are we paying for in your mind?
$980BB
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We use—by several orders of magnitude—more of NATO’s infrastructure and common assets than any other member. We compensate the host nation and/or pay for our own upgrades and expansions to their facilities.
Who does that help?
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We are not writing checks to fund their militaries. We are paying them to use their shite for our own benefit.
Is a subsidy a gift?
What percentage of the resources do we use as compared to the percentage of contributions?
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:05 pm to BBONDS25
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Who does that help?
The United States. When there is trouble in Africa or the Middle East at one of our embassies or installations or missions that needs support right then, I guess you’d rather wait days or weeks to get assets from stateside inside of having it already there in Italy, Germany, Turkey, Spain, or Greece.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:05 pm to Indefatigable
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I guess you’d rather wait days or weeks to get assets from stateside inside of having it already there in Italy, Germany, Turkey, Spain, or Greece.
when was the last time this happened? When Hillary was SOS? Also, is your argument it is frugal to spend nearly a trillion a year to protect embassies?This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:05 pm to BBONDS25
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What percentage of the resources do we use as compared to the percentage of contributions?
Do you not understand that we are functionally the only nation who actually uses these assets?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:07 pm to Indefatigable
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Do you not understand that we are functionally the only nation who actually uses these assets?
Your claim is that no other countries access the resources that NATO possesses? They are subsidizing us? Am I understanding your position correctly?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:07 pm to BBONDS25
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when was the last time this happened? When Hillary was SOS?
Yea I’m sure no support has been rendered to our guys stationed in Syria or Africa since 2013. No one has been airlifted to Landsdahl for treatment. No support strikes have been conducted out of Aviano or Incirlik.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:07 pm to LSURussian
Nope, Greatest of all time. Libs suck
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:07 pm to BBONDS25
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Your claim is that no other countries access the resources that NATO possesses? They are subsidizing us? Am I understanding your position correctly?
Nope. We pay them to use their facilities and, to a certain extent, run them. It’s as simple as that.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:08 pm to BBONDS25
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What are we paying for in your mind?
$980BB
That is our own defense spending and Trump wants to increase it to $1.5 trillion.
We arent spending more than we would because we are in NATO.
But idc, leave NATO.. Hopefully will keep us out of Israels wars
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:09 pm to Indefatigable
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Yea I’m sure no support has been rendered to our guys stationed in Syria or Africa since 2013. No one has been airlifted to Landsdahl for treatment. No support strikes have been conducted out of Aviano or Incirlik.
753MM year to protect embassies.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:09 pm to LetsGoBrandon
I would prefer if we dont, and if we continue to make our EU partners increase their defense spending yearly.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:09 pm to sgallo3
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That is our own defense spending and Trump wants to increase it to $1.5 trillion.
You are correct. Sorry. 753MM is our contribution.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:09 pm to BBONDS25
quote:What I think doesn't matter.
Do you not consider a subsidy a gift?
You're avoiding my question.
You've posted multiple links which you claim says the U.S. is paying money to 31 other NATO countries military.
I read your links multiple times and there is no mention of the U.S. funding other countries military.
I'd like to learn more about your claim. Stop obfuscating your attempts to justify your claim.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:10 pm to sgallo3
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But idc, leave NATO.. Hopefully will keep us out of Israels wars
Agreed!
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:12 pm to LSURussian
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What I think doesn't matter.
It matters to me buddy. You said we aren’t giving other militaries money. I’m asking you if a subsidy is a gift. It’s a pretty important piece of the puzzle.
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I'd like to learn more about your claim. Stop obfuscating your attempts to justify your claim.
Again. The confusion is that you don’t think a subsidy is a gift. Semantics. I don’t need to “win” this. I’d a subsidy isn’t a gift then you are correct. If it is a gift then I am correct.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:20 pm to BBONDS25
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753MM year to protect embassies.
And to have global reaction capabilities for ourselves.
But either way, none of it is to fund European militaries.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:20 pm to LetsGoBrandon
What a complete dumbass.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:20 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I never said that. I don't know if the U.S. is giving money to 31 other countries' military. You said we are. I'd like to see some information that supports your statement.
You said we aren’t giving other militaries money.
So far you've been unable to provide such support.
And now you're word parsing about subsidies and "gifts" and that doesn't answer my question because other countries pay into NATO just like we do. So are they subsidizing or gifting money to our military?
If you don't have a link that says what you're claiming just admit it. Otherwise I'm just going to consider your comment as Drama Queen bullsnot.
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