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re: Can dignity exist in a capitalist society?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm not sure it's a function at all of "capitalist society." You believe it is?
Society needs inmates for free/cheap labor so we arrest people for silly reasons or fabricate reasons to arrest them to ensure we will have a continuous influx of free/cheap labor.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You're missing the point. You assume "these industries" enjoy open markets abroad. In many instances, they don't. Tariffs in those instances become a bargaining chip to change lay of the land.
Good luck with that.
You'll need to subsidize these industries forever, or they'll leave.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:28 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
It's a virtual certainty he sees many acquaintances with lower skillsets (in his assessment) outperforming him. He's jealous. He covets their capitalist social valuation. Jealousy, coveting ... those are undignified behaviors.
Could be. That doesn’t really have anything to do with the question though.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:28 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Society needs inmates for free/cheap labor so we arrest people for silly reasons or fabricate reasons to arrest them to ensure we will have a continuous influx of free/cheap labor.
This is bad, even for this line of rhetoric.
Do you have an idea what the total economic output for this "free/cheap labor" is outside of jail-based employment (the kitchen, laundry, etc.)?
I imagine it's less than the taxes paid to house the remainder by a significant factor.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:28 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
You assume "these industries" enjoy open markets abroad
I do not, and its not necessary.
Youre supporting full blown trade wars which will damage us more than it will damage anyone else.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:29 pm to BayouBlitz
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Capitalism rewards greed. Undeniable.
Socialism and Communism are ideological synonyms for greed and envy
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:29 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Society needs inmates for free/cheap labor so we arrest people for silly reasons or fabricate reasons to arrest them to ensure we will have a continuous influx of free/cheap labor.
Wait... you believe that? You actually believe that? You are more delusional/misguided that anyone ever thought.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Curious what you’ve experienced but I’ve always understood that inmates like having jobs / work to do.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:30 pm to 4cubbies
Waiting for an elitist to give me something for nothing is your idea of dignity?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:30 pm to MemphisGuy
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Wait... you believe that? You actually believe that?
She does.
This is why its impossible to reason with her.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:31 pm to MemphisGuy
There is a Leftist argument about why capitalism over-incarcerates citizens (especially minorities) that is coherent (note I did not say correct), and that argument is NOT the one she's posting.
She's posting the TEMU version. I wonder which professor taught her that.
She's posting the TEMU version. I wonder which professor taught her that.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:31 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Capitalism is fine, matter of fact it’s more than fine. It’s exceptional, but what we are right now is less capitalist, as in giving people the opportunity to better their economic station through capitalism, as it is corporatism, which drives out competition through corrupt finance, government, and politicians. This does anything but embrace the benefits of true capitalism. We can certainly return to that, but it’s going to take us to DOGE their butts out of power in DC to do so
Yep.
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And if you think socialism or communism, or any other ism is going to care about humanity, you are willfully ignorant as they’ve all exploited human beings
Yep.
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If you’re honestly looking for an answer to this, you need to crack the Bible. If not, then keep looking for some magic answer from mankind who constantly disappoints because it’s man that’s the root problem of all of this.
Yep.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is bad, even for this line of rhetoric.
This is what immediately popped in my head when I read that doozy of a quote by her...
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:32 pm to MemphisGuy
I’m not as trusting of the government as you are.
Sorry not sorry.
Sorry not sorry.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:32 pm to NIH
quote:
I’ve always understood that inmates like having jobs / work to do.
100%
Had a client have to do a work-rehab (not specifically jail) program longer than he anticipated recently and 2 guys in the audience were consoling him and that was a specific theme (as one was going to jail jail). They kept telling him it would fly by b/c he had a job and the one thing that sucked and made time take forever was just lounging around jail.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:33 pm to 4cubbies
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Capitalism treats humans as a means to an end (profit), so can any human be dignified when they are essentially dehumanized by our economic system?
For those that are capable and willing it provides the ultimate dignity.
For people like you, I understand the challenge or realizing you’ve been outperformed with no recourse.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
There is a Leftist argument about why capitalism over-incarcerates citizens (especially minorities) that is coherent (note I did not say correct), and that argument is NOT the one she's posting.
I suspect this professor is particularly envious of those who may be able to cogently express this theory/argument.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:35 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Society needs inmates for free/cheap labor so we arrest people for silly reasons or fabricate reasons to arrest them to ensure we will have a continuous influx of free/cheap labor.
Nothing these inmates are doing is critical to society. At most they are offsetting the costs of maintaining the prison in which they are incarcerated.
Every labor job performed by an inmate could disappear tomorrow and we wouldn't even notice it from an economic standpoint.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Aren’t work details often suspended as a form of inmate discipline?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:38 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Every labor job performed by an inmate could disappear tomorrow and we wouldn't even notice it from an economic standpoint.
No more cheap fried chicken lunches at the State Police cafeteria.
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