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re: Can we discuss China & our meat packing companies?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:09 pm to ldts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:09 pm to ldts
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Be sure to keep an eye out for other brands Smithfield owns. LINK There's some listed that I had no idea were owned by Smithfield.
WH Group owns Smithfield and here is a guide to their brands. WH Group China includes the labels of Smithfield, Morrell, Eckrich, Krakus, Cudahy, Farmland, Premium Hams, Cook's, Gwaltney, Pure Farms, Dinner Bell, Maple River, Mayrose, Ranch Brand, Raath, Sunnyland, Yorkshire Farm, and many more for a total of 51 labels shown on their website. LINK BRANDS & PRODUCTS
“Our well-known household brands
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:13 pm to cajunangelle
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the second pic you posted is what I have to settle with. I have always used this. It cleans my kitchen island & counters/sink great
I'll try it when it becomes available. I use a LOT of the stuff to clean the kitchen counters 3 times a day. My wife is spastic and spills when she goes into the kitchen. She in incapable of pouring a glass of Crystal Lite from a pitcher without spilling 2 ounces of it. And that stuff won't come off with a wet rag.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:16 pm to Diamondawg
Years ago, where I live there used to be slaughter houses where folks would bring their cows and pigs to be processed and packaged. Dad would buy a steer or share one with someone, and it would fill up our freezer.
I presume the gubmint must have said NO at some point because most of them seem to have gone away....
I presume the gubmint must have said NO at some point because most of them seem to have gone away....
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:32 pm to craynagin
I was actually discussing this with some friends of mine. One of his buddies has cows and probably can't move them. We talked about trying one the two or three year round deer processors to see if they could butcher one for us. Haven't followed up yet.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:32 pm to cajunangelle
I can't say about current times since I am far removed from when I raised beef.
But, I would bet my last dollar that it has gotten worse than when I was in it. Just based on the quality of the meat sold now as compared to good old corn fed prime which is what I raised is the difference. I have not gotten a good sirloin or T bone from a store in years. Quality is not there.
Absolutely on the meds and antibiotics we get from China. They need to be held liable for what they brought down on us.
But, I would bet my last dollar that it has gotten worse than when I was in it. Just based on the quality of the meat sold now as compared to good old corn fed prime which is what I raised is the difference. I have not gotten a good sirloin or T bone from a store in years. Quality is not there.
Absolutely on the meds and antibiotics we get from China. They need to be held liable for what they brought down on us.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:51 pm to craynagin
There are still lockers where the farmer brings the live animal in and the butcher turns it into frozen packages of meat in the cuts the buyer specifies.
The buyer pays the farmer for the animal and the locker plant for the processing.
AFAIK, the lockers are booked way into fall so not much chance of getting one done now unless you want to do it yourself and that is a mess.
The buyer pays the farmer for the animal and the locker plant for the processing.
AFAIK, the lockers are booked way into fall so not much chance of getting one done now unless you want to do it yourself and that is a mess.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 12:55 pm to Zach
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The only thing that's been at zero for 2 months is Lysol spray.
Ain't that the truth. This morning I managed to get some toilet paper and some Clorox wipes but I ain't seen a can of Lysol in months. The food situation is pretty good for now
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:14 pm to September 1948
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I have not gotten a good sirloin or T bone from a store in years. Quality is not there.
This is true. The only decent steaks now are NY strip and Tenderloin (on sale because of 'sell by' date.)
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:37 pm to September 1948
Several lockers up here are not taking orders to process deer this fall because of the backlog on beef.
The packing industry is not a monopoly, but it’s heavily centralized by a few players (not just China). And they are scummy as shite. Early Corona response isn’t the greatest example with the uncertainty, but they will capitalize on any event from both sides.
Processors shutter production, cattle producers have to sell for less or maintain cattle. Without full production, they can sell the meat at a premium. Last year when meat prices were low a Tyson beef processor had a fire at a plant and took their sweet arse time opening it back up
The packing industry is not a monopoly, but it’s heavily centralized by a few players (not just China). And they are scummy as shite. Early Corona response isn’t the greatest example with the uncertainty, but they will capitalize on any event from both sides.
Processors shutter production, cattle producers have to sell for less or maintain cattle. Without full production, they can sell the meat at a premium. Last year when meat prices were low a Tyson beef processor had a fire at a plant and took their sweet arse time opening it back up
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:19 pm to cajunangelle
A list of Smithfield US brands, not sure why Cracker Barrel is shown at the bottom, there's a scrolling list of other brands too long to capture. I can't find any info about them being owned by that Chicom group. Also didn't know that Nathan's Famous was Chicom.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:13 am to notiger1997
Trying to confirm or deny something I heard. Anybody else hearing about a meat shortage in the next few weeks? The affect from meat packing companies having a lot out sick?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:18 am to cajunangelle
I think that depends on the store and supplier involved.
Sam’s has gotten slammed and doesn’t have much in the way of beef though they have a ton of chicken and some pork.
My local supermarket, OTOH, has a ton of everything, most likely because they are locally supplied and have their own butcher counter rather than importing everything.
Sam’s has gotten slammed and doesn’t have much in the way of beef though they have a ton of chicken and some pork.
My local supermarket, OTOH, has a ton of everything, most likely because they are locally supplied and have their own butcher counter rather than importing everything.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:19 am to cajunangelle
I can't blame china for taking advantage of the absolute idiots in Washington and the greed of the typical American corporation. They have slowly but surely choked us without firing a shot.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:21 am to cajunangelle
That’s been the rumor for six weeks now.
I haven’t seen any issues other than on Friday and Saturdays recently when the weather has been nice and half the damn course try wanted to grill meat
I haven’t seen any issues other than on Friday and Saturdays recently when the weather has been nice and half the damn course try wanted to grill meat
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:31 am to notiger1997
Good. I was hoping we are all just spoiled and expect a grocer on every corner to always be stocked with meat & seafood.
Someone spoke of a sign in the back where employees are told of a meeting dealing with aggravated customers. Some employees are saying in 2 weeks--- but I think that is an on going rumor?
Someone spoke of a sign in the back where employees are told of a meeting dealing with aggravated customers. Some employees are saying in 2 weeks--- but I think that is an on going rumor?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:33 am to cajunangelle
I don’t doubt that prices are going to keep rising some, but no matter how much some people or media tried it will it, we aren’t having a meat shortage crises
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:52 am to Wiseguy
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We need to decentralize our meat processing. We need meat processing all over the country, closer to the point of sale, processing livestock that is grown close to the processing plant. I understand the cost benefit of huge, centralized processing plants. However I believe our nation’s food supply would be much more resilient if we actually had more localized sourcing for fresh foods.
And we most assuredly should not have components of our food supply owned by foreign entities. Especially those with whom our relationship is tenuous on a good day.
Below is a link to an interesting Fox News article about cattle ranchers doing smaller local processing and creating higher quality beef.
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“The coronavirus is showing how food supply has become too centralized, especially for meat processing,” Byck, an Arizona State University professor, told Fox News.
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“We could use a lot more mid-level meat processing plants, all around the country. So if one plant went down, there would be others to pick up the slack. It’s one of the reasons the farmers in the film are often making so much more money — because they’ve created their own supply chain and selling direct to customers.”
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“They see anywhere from a 400 – 1,200 percent demand increase and they can’t get enough product. They are trying to get additional animals from anywhere they can,” he said. “Processors at that scale, are not facing closures due to COVID. These processing plants are at or over capacity – their issue is that they are completely full. Smaller and mid-sized operations are actually hiring people, providing employment when many workers are being laid off.”
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According to the cowboys, regenerative grazing – sometimes called holistic management, mob grazing or bison biomimicry – involves quickly rotating cattle from pasture to pasture, before they can damage the land — similar to how bison herds move across The Great Plains. The practice, which does not use chemical fertilizers or pesticides, builds soils that are richer in carbon, which in turn boosts crop and livestock yields. It also purportedly makes the land better equipped to cope with drought and reduces flooding.
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