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Posted on 8/10/21 at 6:45 am to Gifman
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When will this get so bad they can’t cover it up anymore? At a certain point it will be undeniable.
Don't worry, the corporate media will manage the day to day narrative to make sure the messaging is received as scientific gospel to clear up any confusion.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 6:59 am to Mac
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that result in hospitalizations/deaths, is what they said.
You can call the CDC out for lying, but at least be accurate when you do so
There has always been mild symptoms to severe symptoms across the board all the way back to when this pandemic started in 2019. The CDC wants you to forget that though. People with mild symptoms are now only because they are vaccinated circa October 2020 when the vax got pushed on the public. Don't be a sheep.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:04 am to jjdogg76
Do you have the link where they said this? Not saying they didn’t but I would like to see context.
My point being if they said that THEN THIS IS WHY people don’t trust the medical community, politicians, and the media. They either treat us like we are too stupid to understand or flat out lie to us!
CLEARLY less than a 99.9% chance of a breakthrough is total BS. Hell 10% of HOSPITALIZATIONS in La are vaccinated people. Not just a case but a freaking hospitalization!
Just for context if true, CDC is saying there is a less than 1 in 1000 chance of a breakthrough case for vaccinated folks but in La 1 in 10 hospitalizations are Covid positive patients.
Makes sense!!
My point being if they said that THEN THIS IS WHY people don’t trust the medical community, politicians, and the media. They either treat us like we are too stupid to understand or flat out lie to us!
CLEARLY less than a 99.9% chance of a breakthrough is total BS. Hell 10% of HOSPITALIZATIONS in La are vaccinated people. Not just a case but a freaking hospitalization!
Just for context if true, CDC is saying there is a less than 1 in 1000 chance of a breakthrough case for vaccinated folks but in La 1 in 10 hospitalizations are Covid positive patients.
Makes sense!!
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:13 am to jjdogg76
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Explain Israel where over 90% is vaccinated and there having 6200 cases a day! And fully vaccinated people are dying!
9+ Million densely populated, leaves over 1M unvaxed among those who are. Also, vaxxed and unvaxed can still transmit.
4.55 Million tourists per year from all over the globe as recent as 2019. Even if that's 1/2 now you see the problem.
Regular foot traffic from surrounding GAZA etal per day is @ 100,000 in and out of the country.
Not hard to understand really.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:20 am to skullhawk
I’ve read that docs aren’t required to report breakthrough cases, and some hospitals are recording panic ER visits or kids with RSV as covid hospitalizations. Either way, Psaki kept chirping that 97% of hospitalizations were unvaxxed until a reporter called her out for using cumulative data from January to April, where full vax rates barely peaked above 20%.
But we shouldn’t be surprised when known liars lie.
But we shouldn’t be surprised when known liars lie.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:53 am to Vacherie Saint
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some hospitals are recording panic ER visits
This is what I hear from nurses. Yes, some people (comorbidities) are requiring hospitalization, but most are panic/fear because they are showing covid symptoms. The media has people scared to death of a virus with a 0.02% average rate of death. The fear porn over the past 18-months has the general public terrified that they are about to die.
18 U.S. Code §?1038. False information and hoaxes
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:56 am to jimmy the leg
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The federal, state, and local gov'ts and their agencies have been caught in lies numerous times during this pandemic. I have no trust in them anymore as an organizations.
FIFY.
I would expect the Libertarian Party to grow exponentially after this last year and a half. But then again, I expected the same thing after 9/11, the housing collapse, bailouts, etc, etc, etc....
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:20 am to jjdogg76
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention doesn’t have enough resources to properly track Covid-19 “breakthrough cases,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Wednesday.
The CDC stopped tracking every breakthrough case in the U.S. on May 1, focusing just on those that result in hospitalization or death, a move physicians and scientists are increasingly criticizing.
You are correct sir.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:20 am to ds_engineer
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but most are panic/fear because they are showing covid symptoms
I bet there is lots of this going around. The power of suggestion can cause real issues.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:25 am to Mac
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...that result in hospitalizations/deaths, is what they said.
You can call the CDC out for lying, but at least be accurate when you do so.
A local area hospital has an electronic billboard on the interstate stating numbers of hospitalized unvaccinated and vaccinated. It's running at 12% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated people.
99.9% is a bs number
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:44 am to ds_engineer
A vaccinista posted a tweet from BRG yesterday showing that they saw nearly 700 "covid patients" but only about half were admitted.
That sort of tells the story. The media generates fear, and folks pour into hospitals with every sniffle and cough.
That sort of tells the story. The media generates fear, and folks pour into hospitals with every sniffle and cough.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:44 am to JG77056
quote:Is 99.89% less than 99.9%?
and still went the other way.
Yes.
Is 99.89% damn near 100%?
Yes.
So the CDC is basically saying that 100% of vaccinated people have break-through cases?
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:52 am to TigerVespamon
We are supposed to be absolutely convinced by "99.89%" when it comes to vaccine efficacy, but when I point out that I don't need a vaccine because I have a 99.89% chance of easily surviving this virus, the same liberals screech in disgust.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:02 am to DMAN1968
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A local area hospital has an electronic billboard on the interstate stating numbers of hospitalized unvaccinated and vaccinated. It's running at 12% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated people.
99.9% is a bs number
Thats not the same number tho?
The math is pretty simple. 7,525 breakthrough hospitalizations/deaths where 164,000,000 people have been vaccinated.
7,525 / 164,000,000 = 0.005% chance hospitalization once vax'd
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As of August 2, 2021, more than 164 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 7,525 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 9:03 am
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:11 am to jjdogg76
Fauci’s Noble Lies About COVID (Slate)
Interesting article with specific examples
Interesting article with specific examples
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Public health messaging is predicated on trust, which overcomes the enormous complexity of the scientific literature, creating an opportunity to communicate initiatives effectively. Still, violation of this trust renders the communication unreliable. When trust is shattered, messaging is no longer clear and straightforward, and instead results in the audience trying to reverse-engineer the statement based on their view of the speaker’s intent. Simply put, noble lies can rob confidence from the public, leading to confusion, a loss of credibility, conspiracy theories, and obfuscated policy.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:14 am to jjdogg76
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Explain Israel where over 90% is vaccinated and there having 6200 cases a day! And fully vaccinated people are dying!
Did you read the article you linked? Did you even read the headline?
The title alone says 90% 16 and older are vaccinated OR recovered from Covid, not that 90% are vaccinated.
In the article:
"This means that over 55% of Israelis 16 and up have received their two-shot dose in the 12 weeks since the campaign started."
In the article:
"The results in Israel are similar to Pfizer’s trials: “We’re seeing around a 95% effectiveness for preventing disease. So in real-life data analysis, the results are as good as the research that Pfizer had done,” Ash noted."
In the article:
“Once around 80% of the population of Israel is vaccinated, we’ll be close to herd immunity,” he said presumably including children ages 12 to 15 in his calculations.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:16 am to jjdogg76
Big pharma and the military complex run this country.
Trump was hated and despised because they couldn't own him.
It's all in the money. Not the new science
Trump was hated and despised because they couldn't own him.
It's all in the money. Not the new science
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:34 am to jjdogg76
2 weeks ago CDC sent a back-to-school scare "memo" for the mainstream media to leak that Delta has the exact same transmission rate of Chicken-pox. This was a bald faced lie as the R Naught math never added up, especially when you look at the nuances of why Chicken-pox contagion was always the benchmark for child spread. You haven't heard jack shite since as their lie in a bullshite "memo" never stuck to the wall of shite. Alas, when one lie doesn't pan out just keep moving the goalposts further up the field.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:00 am to jjdogg76
Their own study said Moderna is down to 70% confidence level and Pfizer down to 40%. How do they document that study if 99.99% are not having breakthrough cases?
They can't.
Remember they stopped counting breakthrough cases in May, unless they were having "serious" symptoms.
They can't.
Remember they stopped counting breakthrough cases in May, unless they were having "serious" symptoms.
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