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re: Christians: “The only thing more powerful than hate is love“
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:38 am to CatahoulaCur
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:38 am to CatahoulaCur
quote:
Matthew 22:1-14
The Parable of the Wedding Banquet
22 Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son.
3 He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come. 4 “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’
5 “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6 The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them.
7 The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come.
9 So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ 10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 12 He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
True Christianity is not merely the church of being nice. Here, Christ himself, speaking in a parable, throws out the person who is not dressed properly for the wedding, ie. Is not conforming to the ways of being a follower of Christ.
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:38 am to CatahoulaCur
If I'm hungry and break into your home to access your fridge, will you be pacified when Im eating at your table calmly telling you "the only thing more powerful than hate is love"?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:39 am to the808bass
I’m sorry you see it that way.
Jesus loved like no one else, and all the things that come along with that- forgiveness, mercy, justice, truth, etc. That is who he was and was what people remember most about him.
It would be hard for anyone to say what Jesus wanted to communicate is that the Kingdom of God has now come to earth (core message)… doesn’t mean that this reduces or changes any of his teachings, but this was the purpose of his arrival. The Kingdom of God is now setting up shop on Earth.
But this has nothing to do with my concern. My concern is how progressives have hijacked this message that should reside with the only group that should have it… Christians. Now this message has been hijacked, and it is now angering to see to Christian conservatives.
Jesus loved like no one else, and all the things that come along with that- forgiveness, mercy, justice, truth, etc. That is who he was and was what people remember most about him.
It would be hard for anyone to say what Jesus wanted to communicate is that the Kingdom of God has now come to earth (core message)… doesn’t mean that this reduces or changes any of his teachings, but this was the purpose of his arrival. The Kingdom of God is now setting up shop on Earth.
But this has nothing to do with my concern. My concern is how progressives have hijacked this message that should reside with the only group that should have it… Christians. Now this message has been hijacked, and it is now angering to see to Christian conservatives.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:40 am to FredBear
What is this "you guys" crap when it comes to Kirk. One guy murdered him. One guy was pissed off enough to want to kill him. One guy.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:41 am to KiwiHead
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Saying that the core of Christ's message is repentance is awfully Old Testament of you. You should repent for your sin, that is not in question. But are you looking for outward displays are attitudinal ? Outward displays tend to be virtue signaling
You're reading way more into what I said that what I actually said, but yes there should be outward signs of your Christian faith.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:41 am to CatahoulaCur
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The only thing more powerful than hate is love
... yea no.
They claim that because God is love that love is more powerful than hate.
But God is also Justice, Vengeance, Truth.
God is not "just love", he also hates evil. Proverbs 6 is clear on that.
And Hate is not that powerful, money, greed and lust all can be more powerful than hate.
Cheap claptrap.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:43 am to CatahoulaCur
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Genuinely curious as to how we got to this point where when anytime we see a message like this, it comes from progressives?
Because they have intentionally equivocated it and coopted it. Because they think if they use the word "love," then no one can tell them that they are wrong with how they apply it.
The same reason they use the language they do regarding abortion. It's very clear what abortion is. Their goal is to obfuscate the truth.
Look, I'm sure you're familiar with what Jesus (and Paul) said about the world rejecting and opposing Him. None of what you're lamenting (as far as I can tell) is surprising. It was true back then and it's still true now. The world follows the Father of Lies, and always has. The original lie was, "Did God really say..." and it's difficult to tell because this is still fairly cryptic, but it seems like we might be right back in that territory again with this thread.
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It’s a great message, but because it comes from the left, we are supposed to reject it?
I don't see anyone rejecting the message that Jesus came to deliver just because it comes from the left. I frankly don't see anyone from the left repeating the message that Jesus came to deliver.
Can you link to an example?
Also, back to my original response. What is your full argument here applied to everyday issues. On what issues do you feel like people on the right are failing to respond to lovingly?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:43 am to CatahoulaCur
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that the Kingdom of God has now come to earth (core message)
Saying a theological premise that Jesus advanced is a “core message” artificially elevates that message and either intentionally or unintentionally deemphasizes his other messages.
It’s usually 1) lazy, 2) dumb, or 3) purposefully distortive.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:44 am to imjustafatkid
No, that isn't necessary.. Fine if you want to do it, but not necessary
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:44 am to KiwiHead
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What is this "you guys" crap when it comes to Kirk. One guy murdered him. One guy was pissed off enough to want to kill him. One guy.
You all celebrated it
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:44 am to BarnHater
No one bumps kid rock.
The same ppl watching the alternative halftime show are the same ppl that wanted 2 different water fountains during segregation.
The same ppl watching the alternative halftime show are the same ppl that wanted 2 different water fountains during segregation.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:47 am to CatahoulaCur
The problem with that messaging is it's selective to when the left is "attacked."Where's the love for conservatives?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:47 am to KiwiHead
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Saying that the core of Christ's message is repentance is awfully Old Testament of you
Well, Jesus was all about the Old Testament.
Quoted it over 300 times.
Said that He came not to destroy the Law but to fulfill it.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:47 am to Turnblad85
Because words only represent a partial or unclear symbol of what they represent, it’s easy for the victim-narrative types (neo-marxists) to manipulate language, often intentionally obscuring true definitions by use of weaponized ambiguity.
What is love and more pertinently, what is hate?
Asking someone to conform to basic laws and traditions such as immigration laws is not hateful. Holding them accountable is not hateful.
Murdering them with much pain and suffering, that would be hateful. Returning them to where they came from is not hateful.
What is love and more pertinently, what is hate?
Asking someone to conform to basic laws and traditions such as immigration laws is not hateful. Holding them accountable is not hateful.
Murdering them with much pain and suffering, that would be hateful. Returning them to where they came from is not hateful.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:47 am to CatahoulaCur
quote:The issue as I see it is that progressives equivocate the meanings of words. When a progressive says “love conquers hate”, they don’t mean that all mankind should turn from their sins and believe in Jesus Christ for forgiveness, or even that all men should obey God’s law as summarized in the 10 commandments and all should repent when they disobey. They typically mean something different, like validation and affirmation of sin and sinful desires, lack of condemnation of sin, and a man-centered “gospel” of good works, where good works are even defined differently than what the Scriptures teach.
Genuinely curious as to how we got to this point where when anytime we see a message like this, it comes from progressives?
And for that, when it is seen, Christians with a conservative leaning reject it.
Conservatives don’t usually use those platitudes because they don’t communicate anything meaningful. “Love conquers hate” doesn’t mean much because all three words need to be defined. What do you mean by “love”, what do you mean by “hate”, and how does one “conquer” the other? When you define these terms appropriately, you typically find a big difference between conservatives and progressives.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:08 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:47 am to ChewyDante
1) I’d gladly give up my status as a conservative if/ when it supercedes my faith and my Christian morals.
2) I guess this is my point and where I am at… these 2 things are getting harder to reconcile. Battle lines are being drawn and you’re either in or you’re out. There’s no longer room for nuances and reasonable discourse. I was just labeled “you all” with the guy that killed Charlie Kirk. I have voted conservative for 25 years without question.
2) I guess this is my point and where I am at… these 2 things are getting harder to reconcile. Battle lines are being drawn and you’re either in or you’re out. There’s no longer room for nuances and reasonable discourse. I was just labeled “you all” with the guy that killed Charlie Kirk. I have voted conservative for 25 years without question.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:49 am to CatahoulaCur
Jesus corrected people throughout his ministry upon Earth. He set standards. Did he do it with love and kindness, yep. Did he always do it nicely? No
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:54 am to Jimbeaux
Repentance biblically speaking is to go from believing in religion, or your works or whatever else that you think makes you right with God and changing your mind towards Christ and believing in him and him alone for salvation and forgiveness of sins. When they told people to repent in the bible they were telling them to change their mind about how to get to heaven (the law) and be ready to believe in the Messiah that was coming into the world to save them. Man/religion has changed the definition of repentance to changing your behavior to somehow make yourself acceptable to God. Can't be done.
Also, Man in is incapable of loving God the way he loves us.
Also, Man in is incapable of loving God the way he loves us.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:55 am to CatahoulaCur
If a person is on a collision course for an eternity of Hell, I would quite literally have to hate them with the utmost absolute hatred to tell them "hey its ok doing what youre doing, God approves"
Hope that helps.
The problem with, non-believers is that they are always operating under the frame of non-belief. Of course an omnipotent God is silly to them and doesnt exist in their world. In that case, me as a believer telling them that their lifestyle is wrong, is simply because they dont want you to have a good time and be happy and are using belief in a "made up God" to justify it.
Hope that helps.
The problem with, non-believers is that they are always operating under the frame of non-belief. Of course an omnipotent God is silly to them and doesnt exist in their world. In that case, me as a believer telling them that their lifestyle is wrong, is simply because they dont want you to have a good time and be happy and are using belief in a "made up God" to justify it.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:55 am to wackatimesthree
Thoughtful on everything, thank you.
When you see these platitudes “love trumps hate”, “love conquers all”, “love is love”… is it not frustrating that these are all coming from left leaning groups.
Maybe like you said it’s part of the great perversion of taking something that should be good and twisting it, but it’s come to a point where it’s impossible for me to say I wish more things like this were being stated because I’m grouped into the people that killed Charlie Kirk.
When you see these platitudes “love trumps hate”, “love conquers all”, “love is love”… is it not frustrating that these are all coming from left leaning groups.
Maybe like you said it’s part of the great perversion of taking something that should be good and twisting it, but it’s come to a point where it’s impossible for me to say I wish more things like this were being stated because I’m grouped into the people that killed Charlie Kirk.
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