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re: Christians: “The only thing more powerful than hate is love“
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:30 am to CatahoulaCur
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:30 am to CatahoulaCur
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I’m not arguing for a particular point of view, but does feel the left has won with hijacking “love” in any sense.
Yes. Satan has definitely stolen the "love" argument. He knows the truth and is skilled at perverting it. He's been doing it since the dawn of time.
You even have a guy itt arguing that God is evil (or "less forgiving than him") for simply giving you the free will to accept or reject Him.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:36 am
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:31 am to imjustafatkid
Are you thinking the Evangelical / Born Again types who run around proclaiming how they've been saved? That's usually performative art. Your repentance does not....and probably should not be advertised as a promo for a show , sort of speaking.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:33 am to CatahoulaCur
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Or are we disappointed that love has been “hijacked” by progressives?
Go remind Corey Comperatore's and Charlie Kirk's kids that progressives are the party of love. I bet their kids would be happy to hear that after Christmas without their dads.
Or maybe remind Lakin Riley's family what progressive love gets you.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:35 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:35 am to KiwiHead
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Are you thinking the Evangelical / Born Again types who run around proclaiming how they've been saved?
I guess it depends. There are definitely people who are putting on an act, but yes we are called to share Jesus with others and yes that does involve telling people about how you were saved.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:39 am to CatahoulaCur
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There’s no gotcha moment, genuinely wanted to see the sentiment. You’ve had some good points and again I appreciate your thoughts.
I’m not arguing for a particular point of view, but does feel the left has won with hijacking “love” in any sense.
Im gonna ask you again. What is your point? Obviously people are doing things that you disagree with or you wouldnt have felt compelled to write this post. I suspect I know what youre doing, and no im not going to say it. I want you to say it.
Im not going to respond to your irrelevant distraction bait. You obviously dont have to write an answer...but if you dont, it is an answer in of itself
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:40 am to the808bass
Exactly the opposite, not doubting my faith at all. Doubting how to continue being true to my faith along with my political leanings (conservative).
Again, I’m here saying I agree with the message “love conquers all” (to cover all platitudes) and I’m vilified for it bc I’ve lost the plot.
Again, I’m here saying I agree with the message “love conquers all” (to cover all platitudes) and I’m vilified for it bc I’ve lost the plot.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:43 am to CatahoulaCur
Who is vilifying you?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:53 am to CatahoulaCur
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Exactly the opposite, not doubting my faith at all. Doubting how to continue being true to my faith along with my political leanings (conservative).
Ok this seems to be an answer to why you started this thread:
1) You are a conservative
2) You believe that being a conservative is at odds with Christian faith
3) You are seeking to convince people that they should make same conclusion
Now this begs the following questions:
-What mainstream conservative positions, that would one presumably need to maintain to be considered "conservative" ...that you believe are in violation of Christianity?
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Again, I’m here saying I agree with the message “love conquers all” (to cover all platitudes) and I’m vilified for it bc I’ve lost the plot.
No one is vilifying you, but you have been frustratingly vague. "Love conquers all" is a phrase that has no meaning. What is it conquering? Can it conquer God's judgement? How are we defining love?
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:56 am to CatahoulaCur
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So you’d fall into the category that feels the message of “love” in general has been hijacked… are you ok with this? Again, the central message of Jesus (most important of all the commandments) is no longer associated with the people that want to bring forth Jesus’ message, but rather associate love with progressives… again I ask, as a Christian, is this sustainable?
There is nothing "LOVE" about liberals who want to kill an unborn child.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:01 am to BarnHater
I’ve always thought of Kid Rock as a beacon in the night and an exemplary man of faith…
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:09 am to CatahoulaCur
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Again, I’m here saying I agree with the message “love conquers all” (to cover all platitudes) and I’m vilified for it bc I’ve lost the plot.
What is is that you think is inconsistent with this and your conservative beliefs?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:10 am to imjustafatkid
I would argue that you are already saved whether you want it or not or else why the sacrifice on the cross? Problem is that we either forget or don't want to embrace it.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:10 am to VOR
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I’ve always thought of Kid Rock as a beacon in the night and an exemplary man of faith…
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Kid Rock expressed a Christian message to all who watched the TPUSA Halftime Show.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:12 am to KiwiHead
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I would argue that you are already saved whether you want it or not
That is certainly a belief held by some, and that's fine. However, that belief does not supersede everything else stated in the Bible and does not run counter to what I said.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:13 am to CatahoulaCur
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Exactly the opposite, not doubting my faith at all. Doubting how to continue being true to my faith along with my political leanings (conservative).
Who are your favorite Christian thinkers you’re following on social media?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:13 am to CatahoulaCur
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1) I’d gladly give up my status as a conservative if/ when it supercedes my faith and my Christian morals.
Ok? And?
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2) I guess this is my point and where I am at… these 2 things are getting harder to reconcile. Battle lines are being drawn and you’re either in or you’re out. There’s no longer room for nuances and reasonable discourse.
How exactly? Because of deportations? I'm not sure I follow your vexing moral conundrum.
In a time where the distinctions of political ideology in the U.S. have drawn all the more clearer, your Christian values are struggling to maintain support for the conservative side? That's rather astonishing.
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I have voted conservative for 25 years without question.
Obviously that's not good enough unless you like the place this country is in now and where we are headed absent a radical change. Do you think the left is less radical and malicious than 25 years ago? The past decades of conservative leadership have failed us. And I would argue that they have done so on account of the exact attitude in your OP. Weak, passive nonsense that fails to address the actions of rival political actors that seek to transform this country into something that has NOTHING to do with Christianity or Western tradition whatsoever. Passivity and refusal to stand up to their methods and propaganda nonsense is exactly how we got here in the first place. It's shameful what the past few decades have done to this country and that passivity and weakness unfortunately places us in the unfavorable position we are in today where we either take dramatic and swift actions or we concede our values and the future of our civilization to an enemy faction who seeks to fundamentally reconstitute it.
The sanctimonious musing is tiresome and counterproductive. Some of you would happily waffle and wax poetic about how morally conflicted you are with your fellow conservatives while our country is transformed and taken over by militant Marxists who seek to destroy the basic institutions of Western Civilization in order to rebuild an atheistic, Marxist dystopia. I hope the grandstanding is worth it while our progeny will have to live in the consequences of our lofty state of moral confliction.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:17 am to imjustafatkid
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quote:Again, I’m here saying I agree with the message “love conquers all” (to cover all platitudes) and I’m vilified for it bc I’ve lost the plot. What is is that you think is inconsistent with this and your conservative beliefs?
Is anyone else just totally over arguing with this nonsense. Hes trying to do the SFP thing where he just refuses to give a concrete position(without some out) on anything so that he cant be proven wrong. Solomon was right when he says not to answer a fool according to his folly...otherwise you become a fool yourself
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:21 am to KiwiHead
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I would argue that you are already saved whether you want it or not or else why the sacrifice on the cross? Problem is that we either forget or don't want to embrace it.
Well Jesus himself refutes this. One only need read the parable already referenced in this thread of the wedding
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:22 am to CatahoulaCur
Do not mistake fear of extinction with hate.
At a point, you get pushed for centuries, and hey... Deus Vult.
At a point, you get pushed for centuries, and hey... Deus Vult.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:25 am to scottydoesntknow
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Is anyone else just totally over arguing with this nonsense. Hes trying to do the SFP thing where he just refuses to give a concrete position(without some out) on anything so that he cant be proven wrong. Solomon was right when he says not to answer a fool according to his folly...otherwise you become a fool yourself
True enough, but it seems worth it to point out that's what he's doing, which is why I asked him for specifics.
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