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re: Colorado House Democrats defend adding abortion to state Medicaid: “cheaper than birth”
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm anti abortion but their math is correct.
You pay for an abortion it's a one time cost, they have the baby and the government pays for 18 years of healthcare, food stamps and government housing for one kid. Then when it's no existence daddy gets killed in a drug deal, that kid gets a social security check until 18. And you are paying the same shite for the momma, only difference is her social security check is from disability and that's because she has 6-10 kids and can't hardly walk anymore because having her brains fricked out for the sole purpose of living her entire life off the government. Then some of her children are girls so the cycle just repeats.
Cutting that shite out would go a long way towards balancing the budget
You pay for an abortion it's a one time cost, they have the baby and the government pays for 18 years of healthcare, food stamps and government housing for one kid. Then when it's no existence daddy gets killed in a drug deal, that kid gets a social security check until 18. And you are paying the same shite for the momma, only difference is her social security check is from disability and that's because she has 6-10 kids and can't hardly walk anymore because having her brains fricked out for the sole purpose of living her entire life off the government. Then some of her children are girls so the cycle just repeats.
Cutting that shite out would go a long way towards balancing the budget
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:12 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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I'm anti abortion but their math is correct.
Now do the math on economic genocide...
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:21 pm to Narax
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Now do the math on economic genocide.
I'm didn't and am not going into this as deep as that. I am against abortion, a fact is my dad's mom tried to pay my mom to abort me, so yeah I'm against it .
I responded to the simple statement they made that it was cheaper, and I posted a laundry list of reasons that they were correct. I wasn't emotional when I responded either time. If you respond to this, try not to be either
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:26 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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I wasn't emotional when I responded either time. If you respond to this, try not to be either
The concept of murdering babies to save money is worth getting emotional about.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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So a birth is more expensive than an abortion — so the saving comes in Medicaid births that will not occur.
Of course it is.....
If you view people merely as products and revenue to control. Which is exactly what the Marxist platform of the Democrat party does. It is the philosophy, people are nothing more than revenue drains or generators, and the economic system must treat them as such.
Call it what you want, Democrat. Progressive. Marxist. It's all the same foundation and this one of the many obvious logical ends.
It's all about using economics and the power behind it to "bring the greatest amount of happiness to some amount of people." And there is a math behind that for Democrats.... and this is part of that math.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:39 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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I responded to the simple statement they made that it was cheaper, and I posted a laundry list of reasons that they were correct. I wasn't emotional when I responded either time. If you respond to this, try not to be either
I'm pointing out that if all that mattered was economics, killing those who are not contributing would seem good.
Soylent Green etc...
Instead of old people going to nursing homes, turning them into food.
There was a movie...
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:48 pm to AUCom96
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The concept of murdering babies to save money is worth getting emotional about
Again I responded to their statement that it was cheaper. Again I stated I'm against abortion. I couldn't made my stance more clear. I don't normally make the next kinda of comments I'm going to make but since you are generalizing me
The quoted response is why people like you shouldn't be in charge of things. I'm going to assume you are one of those people who want to fund this Ukraine war until the end, am I right?
When you answer a simple statement or make a decision, you can't let emotions be the basis for your decision.
Do you agree with the 2nd war in Iraq that cost billions of dollars and lots of lives? And didnt accomplish shite if you look at it now. That was a descion based off of emotions, W started that war because his daddy didn't finish business the first time
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:55 pm to Narax
frick I don't know how you people type when obviously you can't fricking read. For the 100th time, I AM AGAINST ABORTION, I was responding to the statement "it is cheaper". I didn't advocate for it but pointed out technically the statement was correct.
I saw a YouTube video the other day of a woman that was 26 with 7 kids , living in government paid housing, drawing $4,000 a month in food stamps.
Which is cheaper that or abortion? Not morally right or wrong but cheaper. Remove emotion and answer that question directly
I saw a YouTube video the other day of a woman that was 26 with 7 kids , living in government paid housing, drawing $4,000 a month in food stamps.
Which is cheaper that or abortion? Not morally right or wrong but cheaper. Remove emotion and answer that question directly
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:07 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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frick I don't know how you people type when obviously you can't fricking read. For the 100th time, I AM AGAINST ABORTION, I was responding to the statement "it is cheaper". I didn't advocate for it but pointed out technically the statement was correct.
I saw a YouTube video the other day of a woman that was 26 with 7 kids , living in government paid housing, drawing $4,000 a month in food stamps.
Which is cheaper that or abortion? Not morally right or wrong but cheaper. Remove emotion and answer that question directly
I mean I'm morally against killing nuns for money, but economically it makes more sense...
I'm against prostitution, but it's way cheaper than marriage.
I'm against Indian scammers targeting your grandma, but it makes economic sense.
See here is the thing you seem to not grasp about morality.
If you really are against something, you wouldn't push it.
Your claims are moronic. Your "backstory" a set of words that make no sense. Your arguments for things that you personally oppose is idiotic.
Hence you get flack.
I think it makes great sense for your wife to work the streets, it would really help your bills.
You could sell your children into slavery as well.
I hope you see how dumb that all sounds.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Ultimately, if we want a nation with no need for abortion we should accommodate pregnant mothers with mandatory paid leave for 12 weeks. Get young women on birth control for free as early as possible and use public schools to educate women on how to not end up in a stupid situation because of a dumb, horny young man (because clearly some parts of society are not doing it on their own). Probably should bring back the direct cash payments for half of a doubled child tax credit too. I think a reasonable middle ground on "medicare for all" is medicare for the elderly and children. Keeping children healthy will create fewer expensive health outcomes when they are on an employer subsidized plan or medicaid.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:29 pm to Narax
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I think it makes great sense for your wife to work the streets, it would really help your bills.
You could sell your children into slavery as well.
I hope you see how dumb that all sounds.
Well I guess my non existent wife can be a prostitute and my non existent children can be sold into slavery.
They are non existent because of people with the mindset of you. I accept the flack for a logical answer to a statement "abortion is cheaper"
It was not a moral response I intended to make and didn't make. After several responses from people like you I get tired of arguing with people who are thumping their bibles as they read messages. It's not hard to understand that something can be correct logically and incorrect morally. I've stated my positions on it both ways but you continue to attack me for agreeing with you that abortion is wrong? And my responses are idiotic? You're a dumbass.
My "backstory"? A simple statement and I am alive and at the moment arguing with a dumbass Bible thumper on the Internet. Tell me now where does that not make sense, the fact that someone wanted me aborted, I wasn't and clearly am here responding to your idiotic post and I'm against abortion?
Again separate logic and emotions when you respond, you are not coming off as very intelligent.
I responded to "'abortion is cheaper"
I didn't push it, as you just claimed.
I didn't bring up anything about nuns, much less killing them.
I didn't mention prostitution, which you just brought up.
And yes I did see how dumb YOU sounded in your whole post about me, that basically boiled down to you accusing me of pushing for abortion and trying to call me an idiot.
Hope you have a wonderful day being a miserable human being, happy trails
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:36 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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The quoted response is why people like you shouldn't be in charge of things. I'm going to assume you are one of those people who want to fund this Ukraine war until the end, am I right?
What the frick are you blathering about? Explain to me how funding a war in a foreign country relates to a political party making a decision to "save money" by murdering babies in their own state? You aren't against abortion. There's no fricking way someone is against abortion but can make the "unemotional" decision to back government employing it as a "cost savings" measure. That's not unemotional, that's just disturbed. People with that mentality have been in charge of things... people like Hitler, Lenin and Stalin. I'm sure they were just as "unemotional" about it as you and the other fruitcakes defending this shite in this thread.
God help us.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why not just promote suicide? That way, no more medical costs,
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:48 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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Hope you have a wonderful day being a miserable human being, happy trails
You and the rest of your kind make up backstories to talk about your personal dislike of something while pushing it in hopes of causing something.
You are full of garbage and seem to hate Christians.
What a joke.
You can be angry about how your fake back story came unraveled.
It never happened.
You are just being a liberal meme of those fake personal story morons.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Think of all the money we could save by not treating cancer patients!
People say insurance companies are evil, because they are motivated by profit. Our government is $38 trillion in debt. What motivates them?
Dependency has a cost.
People say insurance companies are evil, because they are motivated by profit. Our government is $38 trillion in debt. What motivates them?
Dependency has a cost.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:57 pm to EliasGrodin
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Prudent expenditure of tax revenues paid by everyone or social policies favored by a very vocal minority?
Wouldn't the prudent thing be to not pay for medicaid at all? If they are truly worried about the expense and it has nothing to do with their bloodlust for killing babies, then why are they not proposing direct cuts to medicaid?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:58 pm to AUCom96
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You aren't against abortion. There's no fricking way someone is against abortion but can make the "unemotional" decision to back government employing it as a "cost savings" measure.
Liberals all do the same thing, they make up a story, about their 2x 80 year old lesbian neighbors who feed the homeless, about how they had a trans child tell them that 12 is a great age to transition, about how they were almost aborted. About how they were a conservative until Trump, about how they were in a church until it kicked out a teen for being gay.
They trade in 1980s memes as their personal stories, they add details that don't align with each other in an attempt to create a story that they feel is true, not factually true, but somewhere some how in some dimension the narrative is true.
It's a known phenomena, and its obvious when it happens.
Cases like this where it's used awkwardly to prove a point and elicit sympathy.
But then doesn't logically connect to anything after it.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just when I think they've gone as low as they can go, they shock me. Once again! So they are, amongst other things, the party of murder in order to cut the budget. Got it!
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:41 pm to Tigergreg
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Why not just promote suicide? That way, no more medical costs
See our neighbors to the north.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:41 pm to AUCom96
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What the frick are you blathering about? Explain to me how funding a war in a foreign country relates to a political party making a decision to "save money" by murdering babies in their own state? You aren't against abortion. There's no fricking way someone is against abortion but can make the "unemotional" decision to back government employing it as a "cost savings" measure. That's not unemotional, that's just disturbed. People with that mentality have been in charge of things... people like Hitler, Lenin and Stalin. I'm sure they were just as "unemotional" about it as you and the other fruitcakes defending this shite in this thread.
God help us.
Ok you responded so I assume your problem is comprehension, not reading.
How funding the war relates: follow me here dumbass and reread the original post, I said that people like you shouldn't be in charge because you make decisions with your emotions. I then asked you if you supported the war in Ukraine, which I'm sure you do, to prove my point that YOU make decisions based on emotions and that is wrong.
And here again after me saying this in my original response and the 20 replies sense, in fact it was the first sentence in my original post. I'm against abortion BUT I can see their cost point. Then I listed a laundry list of cost. I do not back abortion, I'm against abortion, but you dumbass Kamala supporters can't read and comprehend.
I'm sorry the education system has failed you and you can't understand how to read and comprehend what I typed. But please go back to my first post and quote me where I said I supported abortion. You can't, you are just going to keep losing this argument because you are trying to say I said something I never said. Let your emotions go and stop now, this is getting really embarrassing for you "fruitcake" lmao
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