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re: Could some Dem please post what they are for
Posted on 11/30/25 at 6:25 pm to Marquesa
Posted on 11/30/25 at 6:25 pm to Marquesa
Universal health care
Strong law enforcement
Balanced Budgets
All employees receive a living wage
Free college education for all medical, education, and engineering students, and veterans.
Housing for the elderly, disabled, and veterans
Higher taxes on the rich
Sensible tariff rates
Open borders
I was joking on that last one.
Strong law enforcement
Balanced Budgets
All employees receive a living wage
Free college education for all medical, education, and engineering students, and veterans.
Housing for the elderly, disabled, and veterans
Higher taxes on the rich
Sensible tariff rates
Open borders
I was joking on that last one.
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 6:57 pm to BuckI
quote:
Universal health care
Strong law enforcement
Balanced Budgets
All employees receive a living wage
Free college education for all medical, education, and engineering students, and veterans.
Housing for the elderly, disabled, and veterans
Higher taxes on the rich
Sensible tariff rates
I'd love to see you balance that budget!
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:15 pm to Narax
With tax hikes on the rich and cutting costs elsewhere.
Put the insurance industry out to pasture and rein in big pharma.
Put the insurance industry out to pasture and rein in big pharma.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:29 pm to Marquesa
Although I’m independent, I’m often accused here of being a Democrat and other things here. So I will bite.
This is a direct copy and paste from a response to someone a couple of months ago here.
I am pro constitution.
I’m a strong supporter of the second amendment. I also support sensible gun control, mainly in the form of strict background checks and waiting periods. might not solve much. But I’m for that.
I am pro “the right to choose“. But only up to about eight weeks or so. Anything after that should be a medical emergency.
I am a big supporter of the right to protest, unless it involves physical violence or property destruction, or puts another person in danger. Yes I support illegal passive protests. But I also support consequences for those. The violent BLM and January 6 protests were reprehensible.
I support inclusion for LGBTQ. But not to the point of teaching it in school. Not to the point of a biological female or biological male participating in the other gender’s sports. Frankly, I don’t care how a person identifies. doesn’t bother me one bit. But I don’t think a biological male or a female should be allowed in another gender’s restroom. I like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I’m definitely against gender reassignment for minors. Does it matter to me if an adult does that.
I appreciate that some minority groups are at a disadvantage for various reasons. But I’m also against affirmative action and carve outs.
I am a big supporter of one being able to criticize the government as much as they want. With no repercussions whatsoever, other than from others who express their opinion.
I support mail in ballots. I also support voter ID.
I support universal healthcare.
I support freedom of religion. Any religion. Anything related to religion should not be taught in public schools unless it’s in a history class. And in that case, all major religions should be given equal attention.
I support the right to be rude to LEO without repercussions. But I don’t recommend it.
I am pro LEGAL immigration. I support deportation of illegal immigrants. But not those who have started the process to become legal.
This is a direct copy and paste from a response to someone a couple of months ago here.
I am pro constitution.
I’m a strong supporter of the second amendment. I also support sensible gun control, mainly in the form of strict background checks and waiting periods. might not solve much. But I’m for that.
I am pro “the right to choose“. But only up to about eight weeks or so. Anything after that should be a medical emergency.
I am a big supporter of the right to protest, unless it involves physical violence or property destruction, or puts another person in danger. Yes I support illegal passive protests. But I also support consequences for those. The violent BLM and January 6 protests were reprehensible.
I support inclusion for LGBTQ. But not to the point of teaching it in school. Not to the point of a biological female or biological male participating in the other gender’s sports. Frankly, I don’t care how a person identifies. doesn’t bother me one bit. But I don’t think a biological male or a female should be allowed in another gender’s restroom. I like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I’m definitely against gender reassignment for minors. Does it matter to me if an adult does that.
I appreciate that some minority groups are at a disadvantage for various reasons. But I’m also against affirmative action and carve outs.
I am a big supporter of one being able to criticize the government as much as they want. With no repercussions whatsoever, other than from others who express their opinion.
I support mail in ballots. I also support voter ID.
I support universal healthcare.
I support freedom of religion. Any religion. Anything related to religion should not be taught in public schools unless it’s in a history class. And in that case, all major religions should be given equal attention.
I support the right to be rude to LEO without repercussions. But I don’t recommend it.
I am pro LEGAL immigration. I support deportation of illegal immigrants. But not those who have started the process to become legal.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:43 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:This. So much this.quote:As do I for just pointing to what I think certain legal outcomes WILL be...not what I WANT them to be.
I regularly get called a Leftist
This is not the place for reasoned analysis of a complex issue, because the bulk of posters here do not WANT it. They want a Trumpist pep rally in every thread.
Pep rallies are NOT about looking at the Xs and the Os or about analyzing the relative strengths of the two teams. They are about cheeringn for your team.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:45 pm to Roaad
quote:He won't.quote:I'll bite. Explain the logically incoherence in that quote
Gotta stop saying logically incoherent things.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:52 pm to BuckI
quote:
With tax hikes on the rich and cutting costs elsewhere.
Put the insurance industry out to pasture and rein in big pharma.
LOL
With numbers.
I promise you can't no matter how you try to play with the numbers.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:04 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
Although I’m independent, I’m often accused here of being a Democrat and other things here. So I will bite.
I do think many people on this board confuse DU level Liberal with right leaning moderate who just really hates Donald Trump
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:09 pm to Roaad
quote:
There is literally no value in a dem saying anything on this board You could talk about economic policy, and all you would get it "baby killer", "Commie", "Socialist", "Open Borders" etc.
That is not necessarily true but how can you be a part of the organization that is for socialism, for illegal criminals in our country and a plethora of other issues.
But, for purposes of this thread what, specifically is your economic policy? Tax the rich? Handouts for fraudulent Medicaid or social security disability? Raise tax on gas for global warming?
I'll listen
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:10 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
This is not the place for reasoned analysis of a complex issue, because the bulk of posters here do not WANT it. They want a Trumpist pep rally in every thread.
Yea I think I got a hundred or so downvotes when I posted memes of Noem killing dogs...
But doesn't that make it more fun?
That said, the better discussions probably involve some combination of ChineseBandit, SFP, NC_Tiger, Rodger, TigerDoc, Jbird etc...
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:12 pm to BuckI
quote:
Strong law enforcement Balanced Budgets
Those are not democrat liberal points
There is no way to get a balanced budget with your wants
And why am I responsible for all of those? Why do you think you can take my money and give it to someone else? Explain
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:41 pm to BuckI
Whatever they list……
They want someone to pay for them being stupid.
They want someone to pay for them being stupid.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:41 pm to Narax
quote:Big fun.
I think I got a hundred or so downvotes ... But doesn't that make it more fun?
It is hilarious to walk into a room full of Chargers fans and assert that Joe Montana was a better quarterback than Ryan Leaf. Every reasonable person on the planet understands that this is a true statement, but THAT room will lose its mind in the process of defending Leaf, because of the jersey he wore.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:53 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
Big fun.
It is hilarious to walk into a room full of Chargers fans and assert that Joe Montana was a better quarterback. Every reasonable person on the planet understands that this is a true statement, but THAT room will lose its mind in the process of defendingn Leaf.
Yea this place is like that no topic (within legality) is forbidden.
It collects a lot of libertarian types, (some of whom are hard core defending Venezuela right now).
SFP has more down votes than anyone on any forum in the world.
Anywhere else he would have been banned long before 450k posts.
But yes you could start any topic you can think of.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 10:00 pm to BBONDS25
Military oversight means some type of audit instead of a blank check as we all know there is alot of waste than can be eliminated. Corps do this to make shareholders and execs happy but painful to some employees.
DOGE imo was too fast and free by grabbing too much data and not knowing what they did/will do with it and didn't find/show enough fraud as expected and no oversight.
Golf for exercise/fun is one thing. Protect POTUS for sure! Saying he wouldn't and then making it a priority and benefiting personally is different.
We live in a centrist country and too far either way only devides us and we must compromise to be great. Like work, sports, family.
The only man in this world that wants you to be better than him is your father. Everyone else wants to beat you down.i wish success to anyone if you try.
DOGE imo was too fast and free by grabbing too much data and not knowing what they did/will do with it and didn't find/show enough fraud as expected and no oversight.
Golf for exercise/fun is one thing. Protect POTUS for sure! Saying he wouldn't and then making it a priority and benefiting personally is different.
We live in a centrist country and too far either way only devides us and we must compromise to be great. Like work, sports, family.
The only man in this world that wants you to be better than him is your father. Everyone else wants to beat you down.i wish success to anyone if you try.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 10:57 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
This is not the place for reasoned analysis of a complex issue, because the bulk of posters here do not WANT it.
and others like yourself want to do nothing but whine about Trump
WTF is the difference?
Posted on 11/30/25 at 10:58 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
It is hilarious to walk into a room full of Chargers fans and assert that Joe Montana was a better quarterback than Ryan Leaf. Every reasonable person on the planet understands that this is a true statement, but THAT room will lose its mind in the process of defending Leaf, because of the jersey he wore.
That is idiotic.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:07 pm to Marquesa
When all else fails, make up something that’s bullshite as a power grab. Then convince the masses by indoctrination.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:12 pm to BuckI
quote:
Universal health care
Strong law enforcement
All employees receive a living wage
Free college education for all medical, education, and engineering students, and veterans.
Housing for the elderly, disabled, and veterans
Higher taxes on the rich
Sensible tariff rates
And then
quote:
Balanced Budgets
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:19 am to Marquesa
Universal healthcare. Not necessarily through a Sanders style medicare for all expansion, but something realistically attainable.
I support LGBTQ rights, gay marriage, and affirmation. This doesn't mean adding it to k-12 curricula, certainly not at the federal level. I'm against medical intervention for children. Adults should and do have the agency to make that decision themselves.
DEI: Against any policy that prioritizes or discriminates hiring or promotion on basis of race, religion, gender, preference, etc. I DO support the idea of requiring federal agencies and contractors to advertise and promote open positions and opportunities in all areas.
A strong Department of Education whose core mission is advancing literacy, mathematics, science, and the arts in schools across the country. They should be setting the minimum standard across the country and helping states lead initiatives in critical and groundbreaking areas like AI, Quantum Computing, etc. And yes, I think art is every bit as critical as those others. American culture, its soft power, is its greatest instrument by far.
Religion out of public schools. Exception would be studies that include all major religions. Want the cross and 10 commandments on the wall? Then the star and crescent is going right next to it. Take your pick.
Universal higher education, whether that's college, trade school, beauty school, whatever. Fund it via a modest tax on corporations utilizing AI for products/development, etc. AI can't be just a win for the wealthy, the benefits need to reach all Americans.
Reign in the control tech companies have over private data and online tracking of users.
I support legal immigration and the deportation of anyone overstaying visas, crossing illegally, etc. I DO support a pathway for long-term residents with a stiff penalty for those who crossed as adults and never made an attempt to rectify their status. Any taxes not previously paid should have to be paid. I believe children should be given residency and allowed a clear, straight forward path to citizenship.
Except for critical areas, companies should be forced to hire Americans to fill any and every role. If this risks America falling behind, then perhaps this will light a fire behind their asses and those in congress to get serious about fixing education in America.
Higher taxes on the wealth in America. The gap has become so incredibly obscene and large.
Maintain the most powerful military in the world, but hold defense contractors and the pentagon accountable for failed deliveries and cost overruns. There needs to be major overhauls in accountability. The decades of failure in producing major surface combatants for the Navy is a prime example.
Some kind of tax structure that encourages or forces corporations to pay a fairer share of profits to employees. They are and have been making record profits for such an incredible amount of time, there's no justification for all the wealth hoarding at the top.
I support early-term abortions. I'm not entirely sure when the cutoff should be, but I'm very much against anything past several weeks at the most.
I support universal background checks across the board and common sense gun control when it makes sense. Anyone with a history of violence or mental-illness should either be barred from owning a gun altogether or face regular mental health screenings.
There's more, but those are the big items.
I support LGBTQ rights, gay marriage, and affirmation. This doesn't mean adding it to k-12 curricula, certainly not at the federal level. I'm against medical intervention for children. Adults should and do have the agency to make that decision themselves.
DEI: Against any policy that prioritizes or discriminates hiring or promotion on basis of race, religion, gender, preference, etc. I DO support the idea of requiring federal agencies and contractors to advertise and promote open positions and opportunities in all areas.
A strong Department of Education whose core mission is advancing literacy, mathematics, science, and the arts in schools across the country. They should be setting the minimum standard across the country and helping states lead initiatives in critical and groundbreaking areas like AI, Quantum Computing, etc. And yes, I think art is every bit as critical as those others. American culture, its soft power, is its greatest instrument by far.
Religion out of public schools. Exception would be studies that include all major religions. Want the cross and 10 commandments on the wall? Then the star and crescent is going right next to it. Take your pick.
Universal higher education, whether that's college, trade school, beauty school, whatever. Fund it via a modest tax on corporations utilizing AI for products/development, etc. AI can't be just a win for the wealthy, the benefits need to reach all Americans.
Reign in the control tech companies have over private data and online tracking of users.
I support legal immigration and the deportation of anyone overstaying visas, crossing illegally, etc. I DO support a pathway for long-term residents with a stiff penalty for those who crossed as adults and never made an attempt to rectify their status. Any taxes not previously paid should have to be paid. I believe children should be given residency and allowed a clear, straight forward path to citizenship.
Except for critical areas, companies should be forced to hire Americans to fill any and every role. If this risks America falling behind, then perhaps this will light a fire behind their asses and those in congress to get serious about fixing education in America.
Higher taxes on the wealth in America. The gap has become so incredibly obscene and large.
Maintain the most powerful military in the world, but hold defense contractors and the pentagon accountable for failed deliveries and cost overruns. There needs to be major overhauls in accountability. The decades of failure in producing major surface combatants for the Navy is a prime example.
Some kind of tax structure that encourages or forces corporations to pay a fairer share of profits to employees. They are and have been making record profits for such an incredible amount of time, there's no justification for all the wealth hoarding at the top.
I support early-term abortions. I'm not entirely sure when the cutoff should be, but I'm very much against anything past several weeks at the most.
I support universal background checks across the board and common sense gun control when it makes sense. Anyone with a history of violence or mental-illness should either be barred from owning a gun altogether or face regular mental health screenings.
There's more, but those are the big items.
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