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Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:51 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:51 am to
Yeah. A lot of us caught on early on. No one cares. Thanks.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:51 am to
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Yeah. A lot of us caught on early on. No one cares. Thanks.




Noted...
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69799 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:59 am to
Not as good as Japan or China
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16632 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Using the federal govt as a source of funds is outrageously inefficient. You'd be better off with a tax cut, and instead a tax credit for any services you pay out of pocket, while abolishing the entirety of the DOE.


Not talking about using it as a source of funds, but as setting standards and federal enforcement of things like equal access to education for kids with disabilities through IDEA. This is the type of things the DoEd should do or under the umbrella of another department like it use to be.
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 12:06 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Not talking about using it as a source of funds, but as setting standards and federal enforcement of things like equal access to education for kids with disabilities through IDEA. This is the type of things the DoEd should do or under the umbrella of another department like it use to be.


Then the standards are set and those people can go home. They have had 45 years, I don't think it is going to happen.

sounds like a one time, coupla million shot
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23567 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:09 pm to
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What's the framework schools will follow if the DoE is eliminated?, you didnt think about that, just throw something up to see if it sticks??

10th Amendment

“ powers not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the states, are reserved for the states or the people”

The End
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:11 pm to
A trillion dollars spent with scores going down

Typical democratic waste of money.

Get it out of Washington
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:11 pm to
imagine being in this thread and defending the small group of like-think bureaucrats inside the DC bubble as better able to decide what should be taught to a bunch of farmer's kids in Oklahoma.

us red state'm idiots don't know nuthin' bout book learning!

help us washington!
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13572 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Name one aspect of prep education that has improved over the past 40 years.


based on all the OT headlines, its definitely sex ed
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:12 pm to
You stink
Posted by RollTide4547
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:12 pm to
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doesn't justify eliminating the DoE,


What part of the childs education has improved since the DoE came to be? I don't see anything. If some process or program has not improved things in 50 years, it's never going to. End it.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:17 pm to
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I honestly have no idea what the function of the Department of Education is?
To promote Marxist ideology and be a jobs program for leftist.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33754 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:18 pm to
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the US is ranked 13th in education worldwide by this site.

Data Pandas? really? Your trusted news source? Or the one that you could find to bolster your narrative?

Why leave out this one?
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The IMD World Competitiveness Center reports that the U.S. ranked 12th in its 2024 Competitiveness Report after ranking first in 2018.

When Trump was last president, we were 1st. Now 12th. Hmmmm

Or this?
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Despite the United States having the best-surveyed education system on the globe, U.S students consistently score lower in math and science than students from many other countries. According to a report in 2018, the U.S. ranked 38th in math scores and 24th in science.

Those scores were from tests taken during the Obama administration

And this?
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The Program for International Student Assessment, for instance, measures 15-year-olds’ knowledge in the areas of reading, math and science. In the most recent results from 2022, the mean score for math among American teens ranked No. 21 among the three dozen countries that were assessed

Theres more
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U.S. students ranked 28th out of 37 OECD member countries in math. Among OECD countries. The U.S. average score for math fell by 13 percentage points between 2018 and 2022

Trump aint wrong
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America now ranks 33rd out of the 44 advanced economies when it comes to the percentage of young people attaining a post-high school degree. In preschool education, the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development just ranked America 35th out of 37 when it comes to investing in early childhood education. Today, barely half of three- and four-year olds are enrolled in early childhood education. In Germany, France, and the UK, for example, that number is more than 90%.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17403 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:31 pm to
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If Trump really wants to make America great again he will figure out a way to disband All public unions
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16632 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:46 pm to
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Then the standards are set and those people can go home. They have had 45 years, I don't think it is going to happen. sounds like a one time, coupla million shot


It’s not something you need a giant department, no. You do need someone updating it and making sure it is enforced. Combine it with another department, there are other things like this that the department does that is useful. Slimming down and combining with other departments is warranted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:48 pm to
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A trillion dollars spent with scores going down


Education, the Drug War and War on Poverty all spent trillions with no redeeming results.

They are job creators for lazy people.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36049 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Not sure where Trump gets his stats on public education with the US ranked 40th, the US is ranked 13th in education worldwide by this site.


Ah yes, pandas. The retards of the animal kingdom.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16632 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 1:24 pm to
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imagine being in this thread and defending the small group of like-think bureaucrats inside the DC bubble as better able to decide what should be taught to a bunch of farmer's kids in Oklahoma.


You are in Tennessee too. Have you looked into the charter schools our dipshit state reps like? They are bigger pieces of shite than our public schools. The TCAP laws are utterly dogshit and not working. My daughter with dyslexia gets no help from the state, her IEP thanks to Federal laws gets us to do an end around stupid Tennessee bullshite.


Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1620 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Then let states and cities and counties compete with each other for students

That’s the problem. Too many (most) people have lost the ability and desire to compete.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6849 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Not sure where Trump gets his stats on public education with the US ranked 40th, the US is ranked 13th in education worldwide by this site.

There's a kid in TN suing his school district for graduating with a 3.4 GPA, but found he is unable to read. Which one of those 2 rankings do you really think is closer??
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