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Posted on 2/26/26 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 1:58 pm to
black democrats on business and politics: There are systemic cultural barriers among the white majority that make the path for blacks more difficult.

black democrats on the NBA and NFL: There are zero systemic cultural barriers among the black majority that make the path for whites more difficult.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:04 pm to
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You think those are unfair characterizations?


Absolutely. If doesn't affect his ability to be the best in the game, why bring it up? How often do you see KD criticized for being physically weak or too fricking stupid to pass the Wonderlic? Jordan for being too small? Zion for being an overweight sex addict? I could go on forever.

You can go online and watch hours of podcasts with old NBA legends talking about how high the bar of respect was for white players like Bird and Stockton, or how The Last Dance portrayed the players' attitudes toward people like Kukoc, Kerr, and Wennington. You think those sentiments have changed?
This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:13 pm to
Because ???
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:18 pm to
I feel like my daughter could write a book about the bull crap she had to endure playing for 2 racists in high school. She turned down really good college offers because they killed her love for the game. Went on to play another sport on scholarship but at one time hoops was her true love and it ticks me off to think about it.
This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 2:19 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:30 pm to
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Absolutely

Wait, let me get this straight. You are trying to argue with a straight face that Jokic is fast and athletic?

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If doesn't affect his ability to be the best in the game, why bring it up?

Umm bc everyone is in awe that the best player on the planet happens to be slow and unathletic. Are you OK?

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Zion for being an overweight sex addict? I could go on forever.

Wtf

All. The. fricking. Time.


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You can go online and watch hours of podcasts with old NBA legends talking about how high the bar of respect was for white players like Bird and Stockton, or how The Last Dance portrayed the players' attitudes toward people like Kukoc, Kerr, and Wennington. You think those sentiments have changed?


Do you even know what you are arguing at this point? Jokic might win his 4th MVP in a few months. He is the consensus, best player alive. His slowness and unathleticness is almost always brought up with a positive spin, meant to highlight how exceptional he is at everything else to still be the best. Stephen A repeats all the time “no muscle definition, can’t jump on a curb…and you can’t stop the man!”

You trying to be offended on Jokic’s behalf is mind numbing to me.
This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:52 pm to
Are you retarded?

Serious question.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 2:56 pm to
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First, look up the question he was responding to and tell me if you think his response is a reasonable one.


Irony. You're the one making the argument that the original context is missing but refuse to provide it. Be at least as reasonable as you seem to want others to be by backing up your claim instead of trying to pawn it off on others.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Are you retarded?

You’re the one who thinks Jokic is fast and athletic
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47117 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:01 pm to
do you ever hear anyone marvel at how elite an NBA player KD is despite being frail and mentally retarded? and why do you think that is?

Never mind. You aren't here to have a thoughtful discussion.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:01 pm to
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You're the one making the argument that the original context is missing but refuse to provide it.

Correct, I encourage people to educate themselves. That’s the problem with today’s generation: they want everything spoon fed to them.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:03 pm to
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do you ever hear anyone marvel at how elite an NBA player KD is despite being frail and mentally retarded? and why do you think that is?

I’m not talking basketball with someone who thinks Jokic is fast and athletic

You clearly don’t follow the nba.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Correct, I encourage people to educate themselves. That’s the problem with today’s generation: they want everything spoon fed to them.


Cherry-picking doesn't change the fact that it's your job to provide backing for your arguments, not someone else's. Stop being lazy and take some personal responsibility for your stance.
Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:06 pm to
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To left wingers diversity means anti-white men
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:07 pm to
Thanks for your contribution
Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:14 pm to
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I feel like my daughter could write a book about the bull crap she had to endure playing for 2 racists in high school. She turned down really good college offers because they killed her love for the game. Went on to play another sport on scholarship but at one time hoops was her true love and it ticks me off to think about it.

I knew a parent who wouldn’t let her daughter play high school basketball because she said it was a “lesbian sport”. She pointed especially to college basketball and that was also around the time of Pokie Chatman was leaving LSU over sex allegations with a player.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47117 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:20 pm to
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I’m not talking basketball with someone who thinks Jokic is fast and athletic


Finally! You are right about something. You are NOT talking to someone who thinks that. You are talking to someone who believes its completely irrelevant, yet talked about in NBA circles ad nauseum - and certainly not as a "compliment" FFS
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:26 pm to
They used to compare themselves to slaves now they’re upset that there are some white slaves with them in the plantation
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:30 pm to
Black fragility.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:40 pm to
The ABA guys did and for the last 50 years the NBA has been mostly black and no one cares , who likes basketball. Basketball has made some black Americans VERY rich.

So over the last 30 years you have a whole bunch of Croatian and Serbs mostly who can hang with black American born basketball players....Dirk Nowitzki

Why is Durant bitching?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12048 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 3:42 pm to
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Finally! You are right about something. You are NOT talking to someone who thinks that.

Hmm
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I mean… if I had a nickel for every time he’s called slow and unathletic…

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You think those are unfair characterizations?

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Absolutely

Don’t pull a hammy back pedaling so quickly.

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You are talking to someone who believes its completely irrelevant, yet talked about in NBA circles ad nauseum - and certainly not as a "compliment" FFS

Jokic’s lack of athleticism is brought up just like AI’s height was brought up, just like Steph’s lack of athleticism and just like Brunson’s lack of height AND athleticism is brought up. “Despite not being tall/athletic/etc, look at how much he’s dominating!” You really don’t get that context? No one is surprised when a physical marvel like LeBron dominates. But someone short or slow? Hell yeah it should be brought up!

But go ahead, what’s your Jokic take? That this 3 time MVP, who is consensus best player alive right now by anyone talking basketball with a mic, who is universally lauded by his contemporaries is….being underrated bc he’s white? Media and players don’t think he’s the good? They bring up his lack of athleticism to disparage him bc they are racist?
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