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re: Do you believe in global warming?
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:06 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:06 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Rising Temperatures May Cause More Katrinas
It's been 11 years since Katrina. Why haven't we had any more Katrina's in the past 11 years?
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:08 am to WhiskeyPapa
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So we shouldn't work to avoid another Katrina?
Are you kidding with this stupidity? There will always, always be category five storms, always. We cannot prevent them. This is truly a mind-numbingly stupid post from you. What caused the Galveston hurricane, the 1935 hurricane, Camile? The tax grabbers love dupes like you.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:08 am to Dale51
One degree change over 1,000 years. No more than 3 degrees over a 5,000 year period.
We're looking at a 4 degree change by the end of this century, potentially higher. It's also not ending. It will continue to rise in the following century.
You're familiar with the concept of interest I assume. Our current climate change is interest on the principal that we're still accumulating. The co2 in the atmosphere is the principal. The principal is still rising and interest is accumulating.
We're looking at a 4 degree change by the end of this century, potentially higher. It's also not ending. It will continue to rise in the following century.
You're familiar with the concept of interest I assume. Our current climate change is interest on the principal that we're still accumulating. The co2 in the atmosphere is the principal. The principal is still rising and interest is accumulating.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:09 am to WhiskeyPapa
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The science tells us that continued and increasing use of fossil fuels exacerbate pollutants that add to the Greenhouse Effect, which is one of the major factors in global warming.
What do you mean by "THE science"? There is no such thing as "science" there is only scientific methodology, and any variance from that strict methodology take it out of being able to claim a conclusion is "science".
Falsification is an important step in scientific methodology.
When warmists claim that if it's warmer, it's the product of global warming, and if it colder, it a product of global warming, if it dry, its a product of global warming, if there are excessive rain falls its a product of global warming, if there is an increase in the frequency and force of hurricanes its global warming, if there is a drought in the occurrence of hurricanes its global warming, etc, etc, etc, what, in your view, would constitute the important part of scientific methodology know as falsification?
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:12 am to Jake88
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When? That shite was ELEVEN years ago and the US has had a decrease in major hurricanes.
Actually, it worse for the AGWers than that. There has been, not a decrease in major hurricanes in 11 years, there have been ZERO major hurricanes in 11 years.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:13 am to Killean
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We're looking at a 4 degree change by the end of this century
The experts have been wrong about so much, why would I believe this prediction? Why would I believe projections from a model that cannot calculate the influence and is unaware of all climate and atmospheric variables? Why didn't they foresee the 17 year pause?
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:14 am to WhiskeyPapa
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So we shouldn't work to avoid another Katrina?
Two things.
1. Your comment is a strawman.
2. Other than a Pat Robertson like force of will to push back a hurricane, man can do nothing to "prevent a hurricane".
Sorry...thats the science.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:16 am to Damone
Coast to coast am tells me that if man made warming was not happening, we would be in ice age.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:16 am to Killean
quote:when did that start requiring belief?
Scientific method..
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:18 am to WhiskeyPapa
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The study points to a gradual increase of Katrina-like events."
propagandists dream line right there. 
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:20 am to Killean
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One degree change over 1,000 years. No more than 3 degrees over a 5,000 year period.
What caused all those greater temperature fluctuations in the past?
What is the basis for your claim that "1 degree in 1000 years" would be normal?
If you believe that the current global temperature is wrong...what is the "right" temperature?
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:21 am to WhiskeyPapa
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We have the technology and practical solutions at hand
nope. Go have a look at how the solar business is doing. Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:21 am to Killean
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You're familiar with the concept of interest I assume. Our current climate change is interest on the principal that we're still accumulating. The co2 in the atmosphere is the principal. The principal is still rising and interest is accumulating.
Now you're just making stuff up as you go along.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:24 am to WhiskeyPapa
quote:FUK NO!!! You think we can stop hurricanes from occurring? -'d even if we could... why would you be a proponent of artifically modifying the climate in such a drastic way? I thought you opposed manmade climate change?
So we shouldn't work to avoid another Katrina?
Not to mention hurricanes are a very vital component of redistributing heat spatially in the climate.
Good grief.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:25 am to CelticDog
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Coast to coast am tells me that if man made warming was not happening, we would be in ice age.
Everyone knows that it's not CO2 killing the weather....it's Project Harp.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:30 am to Killean
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One degree change over 1,000 years. No more than 3 degrees over a 5,000 year period.
False. Variance has been up and down more than 1 degree over the past 1,000 years. The earth has warmed 1 degree in the last 200 years. All of these are within normal fluctuations well before the age of industrialization.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:33 am to rpg37
I believe in climate change. Climate changes constantly - always has, always will.
Ever wonder why the Egyptians built the pyramids in a desert? Answer: they didn't. It's a desert now though.
Why is Greenland called Greenland? When it was discovered and named by Europeans, it was lush and green and pretty good farmland. Now, not so much.
Ever wonder why the Egyptians built the pyramids in a desert? Answer: they didn't. It's a desert now though.
Why is Greenland called Greenland? When it was discovered and named by Europeans, it was lush and green and pretty good farmland. Now, not so much.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:34 am to rpg37
1. The climate changes
2. Evidence of our influence on that change is HIGHLY dubious
3. Suggested "remedies" for our supposed influence on the climate would be disastrous for our economy and plunge millions into poverty.
4. The climate getting warmer would have many positive benefits which are not often discussed, e.g. vastly increased agricultural capacity (end world hunger)
2. Evidence of our influence on that change is HIGHLY dubious
3. Suggested "remedies" for our supposed influence on the climate would be disastrous for our economy and plunge millions into poverty.
4. The climate getting warmer would have many positive benefits which are not often discussed, e.g. vastly increased agricultural capacity (end world hunger)
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:43 am to rpg37
Nope man doesnt have anything to do with this curve at all.
heres one from Watts up with That
an interesting note on the last one...a poster pointed out that to get that kinda of rise over such as short span of time in the concentration of co2 as compared to the normal cyclic temperature response would normally require an average 12 degree C increase in average temperature for that time period.
That is nasty hot.
Figure TS.1. Variations of deuterium (dD) in antarctic ice, which is a proxy for local temperature, and the atmospheric concentrations of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), and nitrous oxide (N2O) in air trapped within the ice cores and from recent atmospheric measurements. Data cover 650,000 years and the shaded bands indicate current and previous interglacial warm periods. {Adapted from Figure 6.3} the bolded part is particularly interesting since those warm periods corresponded to lower PPM than we have now.
you cannot look at that data, that huge spike on every single collection genre and not conclude that mans activities are not having a very serious impact on our future as a specie.
one think tank maximum and minimums for Co2 ppm at 900 worst case by 2100 and 550 best case by 2100.
those numbers would mean the end of humanity as we know it within a few hudred years
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:47 am to Cruiserhog
quote:And as we all know you can determine the entire spatial distribution and heat content of the entire climate based on a single location's (proxy) temperature.
Variations of deuterium (dD) in antarctic ice, which is a proxy for local temperature
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