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Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:39 pm to 4cubbies
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I can totally see how someone would think it’s all bull. But I also know with 100% certainty that it’s not.
How did you get this response to THIS comment:
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There are tons of gods and most of them weren't perfect from the outset. Their development is the mirror for the human consuming the religion.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:44 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Sounds poly.
It’s not. Elohim can simply mean Angel or another type of heavenly being. All are under and subservient to Yahweh.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
You brought up the “tons of gods,” presumably to illustrate that no religion is special or true. This is absolutely my own presumption and I definitely could be wrong.
This seemed like you were making a case for man made religion. Again, I could be totally off base here. Just walking you through my thought process.
Just for clarity, I’m not offended by anything you said or anything.
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Their development is the mirror for the human consuming the religion.
This seemed like you were making a case for man made religion. Again, I could be totally off base here. Just walking you through my thought process.
Just for clarity, I’m not offended by anything you said or anything.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:49 pm to 4cubbies
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You brought up the “tons of gods,” presumably to illustrate that no religion is special or true.
No. There are tons of gods in human history.
Very few, if any other than Jesus, are Mary Sues
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This seemed like you were making a case for man made religion.
Well, presumably, all but at least 1 (if not all) are going to be man-made. You should agree with that (at least the, all but one version of the comment).
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:50 pm to Revelator
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All are under and subservient to Yahweh.
Yahweh was once subservient to El.
Still sounds poly.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Very few, if any other than Jesus, are Mary Sues
I really don’t know enough about other religions to agree or disagree, but I’ll take your word for it.
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Well, presumably, all but at least 1 (if not all) are going to be man-made.
True. What’s your stance? I can’t remember from all those years ago.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:54 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Yahweh was once subservient to El. Still sounds poly.
Because the God I refer to as Yaweh is referred by someone else as Jehovah or El, it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t the same being.
The Jews didn’t even believe God could be named.
God simply called himself the I Am
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When you're outside the respective bubbles, it's likely going to appear silly.
Is it as silly as watching a materialistic atheist try to make sense out of morality or defend their own worldview?
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:04 pm to Flats
That depends on the atheist, world view, and argument.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That depends on the atheist, world view, and argument.
I’ve never seen anybody here do much better than Sam Harris, who’s laughably bad at it, but maybe I just missed them.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:14 pm to Willie Stroker
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Either fabrication by man to establish a villain for their religion
OR
God created an evil entity for the purpose of leading other members of his creation into evil choices as an alternative resting place for souls created by God.
Wrong and wrong. Neither of these things are true. God didn't "create" a manifestation of evil.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:21 pm to Flats
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I’ve never seen anybody here do much better than Sam Harris, who’s laughably bad at it, but maybe I just missed them.
You just argued that Christians didn't have a right to get married to dunk on the gays. I'd sit this one out if I were you.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:24 am to 4cubbies
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Hey there friend. What do you think happens when humans die? FYI, this is genuine curiosity.
I wish I had a better answer.
It’s fascinating to think of how advanced humans are compared to every other life form we know. I believe there has to be something else. It’s just more fascinating to think about than to conclude it will simply be all over. It would be such a waste of our creation if the answer is simply lights out.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:36 am to Freauxzen
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Wrong and wrong. Neither of these things are true. God didn't "create" a manifestation of evil.
Go on, finish explaining that.
Since you don’t like the way that was phrased and your only response is rejection, are you equally offended that He created the conditions for it to exist?
If you were to continue your line of thinking and subject yourself to obvious follow up questions, what erodes first? The idea of an all loving God as Creator, or the idea that God did not create evil?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:51 am to Azkiger
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You just argued
You attempting some "so you're saying" bullshite does not equal me making an argument.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:02 am to Willie Stroker
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It’s fascinating to think of how advanced humans are compared to every other life form we know. I believe there has to be something else. It’s just more fascinating to think about than to conclude it will simply be all over. It would be such a waste of our creation if the answer is simply lights out.
I definitely feel this. I’m Catholic with a strong devotion to the Blessed Mother, but I just cannot wrap my mind around heaven. I don’t see how any human would be allowed in.
I’m reading a book about life after death. It’s a novel but the author did a lot of research on people’s near death and after death experiences when writing it. It’s gotten me thinking about it.
I agree that our worldly existence can’t be the end. I absolutely believe we have souls. After that, I have no idea.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:16 am to Freauxzen
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God didn't "create" a manifestation of evil.
Are you saying there are things in this plane/universe that God did not create?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
What the hell happened here? Are we really talking about Mormonism of all things?
WHY??
WHY??
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:23 am to bayoubengals88
Mitt Romney showed up slapping our morning coffee out of our hands.
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