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re: Economic Racism
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I would argue that DEI is economic racism.
Argue ? it absolutely is exactly that. Fortunately its getting canned before it does even more damage.
Argue ? it absolutely is exactly that. Fortunately its getting canned before it does even more damage.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:32 pm to Bard
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The prominent mindset in the US is that majority = bad.
I don't think this is accurate. The media narrative isn't reality.
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DEI is, quite literally, a mechanism created to discriminate against the majority by raising race, gender, etc to the point of equaling some level of merit for non-majority members.
Can you name companies that use diversity, equity and inclusion trainings in this way? This isn't the diversity, equity and inclusion workplace stuff that I'm familiar with.
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By definition, that makes the majority who are discriminated against into victims of discrimination.
Just for clarity, your claim is that diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace is simply a mandate to hire minority people instead of white people in every situation? So workplaces with diversity, equity and inclusion trainings never hire white people?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:32 pm to Froman
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At least the Republicans are honest about having no interest in equal rights for women or minorities
Republicans support equal rights. What they don't support is manipulating markets and hiring practices to try to approach equal outcomes. Republicans don't see an issue with STEM jobs being heavily skewed towards males for example. Men and women, on average, have different interests when it comes to studies and careers. And that's ok. That doesn't have anything to do with "rights". The choice is there, if a woman wants to major in a STEM degree, there isn't any patriarchal boogeyman at the registrar preventing them from doing so. They are free to declare the major, take the classes, get the degree, and look for a job in the field like anybody else. But if fewer women choose to go that route than men, then that's market choices, it isn't something government needs to get involved and start trying to disrupt the pattern
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:32 pm to Red_and_black
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Fortunately its getting canned
Nah, they'll just call it something else.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:32 pm to NIH
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It isn’t a privilege thing in 2025. The information on how to save for retirement and home ownership is available for everyone.
I agree.
I think *now* it all comes down to the ability and desire to resist impulse gratification and have a future forward mindset. Some communities can do this, others won't.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:33 pm to Red_and_black
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I would argue that DEI is economic racism.
Can you define what you believe diversity, equity and inclusion is? Calling it DEI is just a way to dismiss it instead of actually being honest about what these policies are.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:34 pm to Froman
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At least the Republicans are honest about having no interest in equal rights for women or minorities
What specific rights do White Republican men get that others don't get and/or have access too?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:35 pm to SallysHuman
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I think *now* it all comes down to the ability and desire to resist impulse gratification and have a future forward mindset. Some communities can do this, others won't.
The information is available for free to all Americans who want to learn how to get jobs, advance careers, handle finances. Yet, the average American reads at a 7th grade level.
Some identity groups have been programmed to believe that they cant do it without government help. Its a lie, and its clearly an attempt to keep poor people under their control and it works like a fricking charm.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why was unemployment so great in Appalachia when welfare was instituted?
You'll find your answer there.
What welfare programs existed in the 1960s that caused black male autoworkers to remain unemployed at higher rates than white autoworkers?
Being specific would help people understand what you're claiming.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:36 pm to 4cubbies
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Can you define what you believe diversity, equity and inclusion is?
The imposing of hiring quotas and fascist control of the workplace.
It all stems from government incentives.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:37 pm to 4cubbies
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Can you define what you believe diversity, equity and inclusion is?
D- Diversity- Bipoc/female/LGBTQIAAA+
I- Inclusion- achieved primarily through EXCLUSION of non diverse 'folk'
E- Equity- as in not equality, but a desire to engineer equal OUTCOMES through Inclusion principles based on Diversity.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:39 pm to 4cubbies
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What welfare programs existed in the 1960s that caused black male autoworkers to remain unemployed at higher rates than white autoworkers?
The same ones that caused former coal miners to stay in dying towns instead of chasing jobs.
Welfare caused the declining poverty rate to halt. It didnt fix poverty.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:39 pm to 4cubbies
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When you say "was," what time period are you referring to? Like when was relegating Blacks to low-skill jobs seen as compassionate? This kinda comes off combative, but it's not meant to be.
Was meaning any time in the past that it has been done.
There may be even a mix of subconscious acceptance of the dependency being created similar to when people feed stray pets. It feels compassionate but in the back of your head you know the risks that mess with the psychology of the living creature you’re trying to help.
National parks even put up signs warning people not to feed the bears. Even in national parks they know the bears can fend for themselves. People tend to be self indulgent in their charity, especially with other people’s money.
That self indulgence in giving handouts is part of what I would include in my definition of economic racism.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:39 pm to Bard
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Yes and no. I believe they are given to placate masses during times of societal upheaval, but that they aren't usually rolled back once the upheaval dies down. They may be curtailed some, but it seems to more often be a case of two steps forward and one step back. The net gain is still one step.
Think about any "stimulus" check the government has given, though. Those obviously aren't maintained.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:40 pm to 4cubbies
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What welfare programs existed in the 1960s that caused black male autoworkers to remain unemployed at higher rates than white autoworkers?
Are you asking a question, or is this a statement?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:42 pm to BugAC
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Are you asking a question, or is this a statement?
I think he's trying to look cultured by abusing the socratic method. I wish he'd just get to the point of his 'lesson'.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:43 pm to BugAC
She thinks there were no welfare programs in the early 60s and she's wrong as usual.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:43 pm to Froman
quote:You will note I said the exist to absolve blacks from personal responsibility. I am NOT saying they actually give a shite about blacks. Far from it.
No, the Democratic Party PRETENDS like they are looking out for black people
In fact, if blacks are paying attention at all, they should notice that Democrats are gradually pivoting to other faster growing groups. Groups that are far less sympathetic to black whining than the typical white liberal is.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:44 pm to BugAC
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You say this knowing that affirmative action, DEI, and racial quotas for employment exist?
You think "affirmative action, DEI, and racial quotas for employment" have changed the dominant culture in the USA? Who shapes the dominant culture now?
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What specific policies currently treat white and black home ownership and inheritance differently?
The very act of inheriting something means that it was previously owned by someone else. Many White people are inheriting houses that were purchased when there were federal, state and local policies that excluded blacks from homeownership.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:44 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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The only area where I think that white privilege applies, however, is property ownership. A white guy is way more likely to inherit a house or property from their parents.
That's not white privilege, it's just wealth creation privilege. If you're white and your parents don't leave you a home there isn't some fund you can dip into.
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