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Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:28 pm to
I don't doubt that it was listed as a contributing factor, but you and others use it as if to excuse the cops for brutalizing a man until he died...as if that makes it not murder.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:28 pm to
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Homicide.


No shite Sherlock. Never said otherwise.

Just as you called people idiots for saying it was because of his 'health', it is equally remised to not acknowledge the coroner stated his health was contributing factors.

But yes, the cause of death was homicide just like Michael Brown.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127147 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:28 pm to
Homicide.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134100 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:30 pm to
You try to act like a tough guy on a message board to compensate for your physical inadequacies.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

I don't doubt that it was listed as a contributing factor, but you and others use it as if to excuse the cops for brutalizing a man until he died


Link? Where did I see anything like this? Not others, but me? Or are you just bullshitting?

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...as if that makes it not murder.


Up to murder now? Awesome. Pretty sure you do not understand the definition of that word but it sounds cool man!
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84143 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:31 pm to
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But yes, the cause of death was homicide just like Michael Brown.


So the actions of the officer caused the death in both cases, however, the evidence in the Brown case showed it was justified. Please show me where this guy posed any threat whatsoever to the officer to need to be choked out... Or the fact that the NYPD doesn't allow chokeholds for this very reason.

Apples and oranges on the two cases you are citing.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127147 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:31 pm to
If you punch a feeble 90 year old lady and she dies, the good news is that her health contributed to her death. The bad news is you're still getting indicted.

Wait. Are you a cop?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:33 pm to
I'm fairly certain you don't understand the def. You do seem however to be very thin skinned and very butt hurt.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:36 pm to
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So the actions of the officer caused the death in both cases,


Yup

quote:

however, the evidence in the Brown case showed it was justified.


So said the grand jury who saw all the evidence, yes.

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Please show me where this guy posed any threat whatsoever to the officer to need to be choked out... Or the fact that the NYPD doesn't allow chokeholds for this very reason.


I don't think he was posing such a threat, I also think the cops intent was to take him down. I do not think the intent was to kill him although that obviously happened. Terribly tragic.

Do I think it is possible the grand jury is not a bunch of bigots and haters and that they are the only ones that saw all the evidence? Yes.


quote:

Apples and oranges on the two cases you are citing.


The OP is posting HOMICIDE every post - I am simply pointing out that ofcourse it was - but it is not the emotionally charged version people immediately associate with murder (see other OP)
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104632 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:37 pm to
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I have not seen this "over and over" = All I have seen are ridiculous faux 'outrage' over stupid instances like Michael Brown and now Eric Garner.


I gave you two examples in my OP. There have been many others in recent months. If you don't know about them, you haven't been paying attention.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:37 pm to
how about granny's selling jam without a permit on the sidewalk. She's done it several times and argued with officers in the past. This time they come prepared and when she starts to argue, this time they body slam her to the ground and she dies from a very old, bad ticker. Not murder to ignorina cause cops and she contributed. Rabble, rabble.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84143 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

I also think the cops intent was to take him down. I do not think the intent was to kill him although that obviously happened.


Well no shite, nobody is saying the cop intentionally killed the guy... But for normal citizens there's negligent homicide. You can be held responsible even if you didn't intend to. The NYPD doesn't allow chokeholds for this very reason and the officer broke protocol. His actions were negligent and they lead to a homicide.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

If you punch a feeble 90 year old lady and she dies, the good news is that her health contributed to her death.


Yes it did and I am still screwed.

quote:

The bad news is you're still getting indicted.


Yes, as I should. Thank you for the directly on point analysis of whether a police officer used excessive force. Bravo.

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Wait. Are you a cop?


LOL back on this - awesome. Profession is pretty easy to detect from my posts on money board but feel free to go on your rants about me being a county cop or some bullshite like that. Hopefully will make you get all teary again like Fergie when you defended your failed secretary's peeps or whatever.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

You do seem however to be very thin skinned and very butt hurt.


From the dude screaming murder? trust me the thin skinned and butt hurt are wearing cute T shirts and going rabble rabble rabble.

No worries over here.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48675 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

By not choking him to death

He was not choked to death
quote:

you ignorant frick
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:43 pm to
Do we have to say negligent homicide (which I think has very clearly been put forth) so you quit being such a drama queen?
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 8:44 pm
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Well no shite, nobody is saying the cop intentionally killed the guy...


we can stop right there - word search murder on this thread.
quote:


But for normal citizens there's negligent homicide. You can be held responsible even if you didn't intend to.


Agreed, and that is what the grand jury spent 4 months evaluating, looking at everything. Are they infallible? No. But perhaps they made a sound judgment based off the evidence? *shrug*

Now back to murder talk - stop this silly baby negligent homicide talk - we need more excitement than that.


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:48 pm to
You're just being a bitchy little prig.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Do we have to say negligent homicide (which I think has very clearly been put forth) so you quit being such a drama queen?


1) You say murder
2) I point out that is retarded and you clearly do not know what it means
3) You claim it again and infer I must not know it.
4) You look it up and feel silly
5) You change it and try to hide ignorance
6) Profit

Now lets get back to more delightful Grandma analogies.....
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12279 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:49 pm to
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You're just being a bitchy little prig.


Sorry for pointing out your ignorance - I will try not to be so bitchy about it in the future.

Now c'mon lets get back to murder and Grandma!
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