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re: From The Durham Report
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:39 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:39 pm to Bunk Moreland
I’d want to know a whole lot more on how US intelligence gained access to Russian intelligence about the plan.
Has that ever been declassified?
Has that ever been declassified?
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:41 pm to Bronco11
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The supposed 200 page annex has not been seen by anyone outside of the Biden DOJ. Until now.
Is that confirmed anywhere? There was a classified annex included in the Durham report that was reviewed by Congress.
I haven't heard of this secret annex that only the Biden DOJ had access too.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:47 pm to boosiebadazz
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I’d want to know a whole lot more on how US intelligence gained access to Russian intelligence about the plan.
Has that ever been declassified?
That would be Brennan's fake "top Putin Deputy" Smolenkov right? It was made up. The guy was never in Putin's c9rcles. But he got that nice house for lying.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:48 pm to shinerfan
A real nice house Clark.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:50 pm to shinerfan
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That would be Brennan's fake "top Putin Deputy" Smolenkov right? It was made up. The guy was never in Putin's c9rcles. But he got that nice house for lying.
So the theory is Brennan has his Russian patsy say the Russians believe Clinton is running a dirty trick linking Russia to Trump so Brennan goes to Obama and reports just that?
Why not just have the Russian patsy say they’re helping Trump? Why insert Clinton at all if the plan is ultimately to help her and sabotage Trump?
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:52 pm to boosiebadazz
Her dossier is involved correct?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:53 pm to Jbird
It seems the conspiracy would be to hide that it was her dossier, right?
Why does linking the dossier to her offer it any legitimacy? From what I’ve seen, most of the IC types were pretty skeptical of it.
Why does linking the dossier to her offer it any legitimacy? From what I’ve seen, most of the IC types were pretty skeptical of it.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:55 pm to boosiebadazz
She paid for the dossier thru fusion gps.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:55 pm to boosiebadazz
I'm guessing our boy Smoley is aware that Trump is back in office. People who can be bought have to be continously re-bought. And Brennan has little to offer these days.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:00 pm to SidewalkDawg
Yes, members of Congress have seen the classified annex of the Durham report, but access to it has been restricted. The full, unclassified version of the report, released in May 2023, was publicly available. However, the classified annex contains sensitive information, particularly related to intelligence sources and methods, which has only been accessible to select members of Congress with the necessary security clearances.
In 2023, after the release of the unclassified report, several members of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees, along with other high-level members of Congress, were given the opportunity to review the classified annex. However, due to its sensitive nature, details from the annex have not been fully disclosed to the public, and there have been limited official comments on its content.
In general, the classified annex would likely contain additional context and specifics on certain investigations and intelligence-related aspects that were considered by Special Counsel John Durham in his investigation into the origins of the FBI's 2016 Russia probe. The annex could also include information regarding intelligence community actions, which Durham's report may have refrained from discussing in detail in the unclassified version
In 2023, after the release of the unclassified report, several members of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees, along with other high-level members of Congress, were given the opportunity to review the classified annex. However, due to its sensitive nature, details from the annex have not been fully disclosed to the public, and there have been limited official comments on its content.
In general, the classified annex would likely contain additional context and specifics on certain investigations and intelligence-related aspects that were considered by Special Counsel John Durham in his investigation into the origins of the FBI's 2016 Russia probe. The annex could also include information regarding intelligence community actions, which Durham's report may have refrained from discussing in detail in the unclassified version
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:02 pm to boosiebadazz
Dutch Intel is the current belief
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:25 pm to Bronco11
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Dutch Intel is the current belief
I vaguely remember a story about Dutch intel burrowing pretty deep into the Internet Research Agency and/or some other Russian orgs. That’s gotta be the same group
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:35 pm to boosiebadazz
5 lenses or whatever the it is called.
We can't sit on US citizens so we ask our allies to do it for us.
No different than Fauci paying for gain of function in China because we legally can't do it in the country.
We can't sit on US citizens so we ask our allies to do it for us.
No different than Fauci paying for gain of function in China because we legally can't do it in the country.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:36 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Oleg Smolenkov is the confidential shite-source Brennan used during the Russia investigation. He's a Virginia resident who (at best) had access second or third hand information.
I’d want to know a whole lot more on how US intelligence gained access to Russian intelligence about the plan.
Has that ever been declassified?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:42 pm to Jbird
5 eyes. The English speaking countries.
Yet, we still don't know the origins of they spying that occured in spring 2016.
Apparently, those answers are in a CIA binder that is rumored to be in the next declassified documents after the annex
It's the one thing that has driven me mad we don't have an answer for. How the hell did they decide to spy on Americans that were just vaguely associated with the trump campaign at a low level? Who sent these people after Papadopoulos and Page? And Flynn? What say you, Mr. Brennan?
Yet, we still don't know the origins of they spying that occured in spring 2016.
Apparently, those answers are in a CIA binder that is rumored to be in the next declassified documents after the annex
It's the one thing that has driven me mad we don't have an answer for. How the hell did they decide to spy on Americans that were just vaguely associated with the trump campaign at a low level? Who sent these people after Papadopoulos and Page? And Flynn? What say you, Mr. Brennan?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:42 pm to Jbird
This was an article in the Intercept or somewhere like that about a Dutch or Finnish or some Scandinavian group that had surreptitiously hacked the IRA and/or FSB and were getting great info for awhile.
I’ll see if I can find it
I’ll see if I can find it
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:45 pm to Bronco11
They were asked to do it.
I believe a Aussie spook said it's common to circumvent law to request your friends to do what you legally can't.
I believe a Aussie spook said it's common to circumvent law to request your friends to do what you legally can't.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:45 pm to boosiebadazz
I don't always agree with her editorializing but this post is a good backgrounder on what this is all about. LINK
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Unlike GRU, SVR did not use most of the files it stole in a hack-and-leak campaign. Russian spies analyzed the documents and wrote reports on them, like normal spying. But then someone — some other spying service, probably — spied on their spying efforts. And that entity shared what they found, including both the things SVR stole and the reports that Russian spies wrote about those stolen files, with the US Intelligence Community. And starting at least by 2018, right wingers have been obsessed with those stolen files and Russian intelligence reports, using them to feed one after another investigation into Democrats.
This gets a bit confusing, because we’re seeing the results of that obsession out of order. We first saw a right wing campaign based off them when John Ratcliffe, then the Director of National Intelligence, released a report about one particular analytical report, then released background documents; both were used as part of the effort to undermine the Mike Flynn prosecution in advance of the 2020 election. That particular report — allegedly claiming that in July 2016, Hillary endorsed a plan to focus on Trump’s ties to Russia to distract from the Clinton email investigation — served as the animating force for the Durham investigation, though Durham had to fabricate new details in the intelligence to do so. For years, Chuck Grassley has been frothing to release a classified appendix of the 2018 DOJ IG Report on the Clinton email investigation that pertained to the SVR documents, which Pam Bondi released the other day. Yesterday’s propaganda presser was based on the release of a 2020 critique of the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment of the 2016 hack (there were earlier versions in which Kash Patel was involved), written by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee (HPSCI).
We’re surely not done. There’s a classified annex to the Durham report in which he tries to justify treating Russian intelligence product as true. And yesterday, Grassley and House Intelligence Chair Rick Crawford asked to get more of the SVR files, this time focused on Barack Obama.
So, these documents were addressed at length by Michael Horowitz (it’s not yet clear how prominently they figure in earlier HPSCI work), then packaged up as part of Trump’s reelection bid in 2020, then further fluffed up by Durham in his failed prosecution effort and, on top of these recent releases, will no doubt feed the frothers indefinitely. But this order matters, because right wingers kept forgetting what they learned in earlier iterations of this obsession.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 5:04 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Fancy Bear
I’ll see if I can find it
Posted on 7/29/25 at 5:08 pm to Placekicker
What I need explained is why when the Steele dossier was identified as the source and the cornerstone for filing 4 FISA warrants which were clearly illegal, why wasn't anything done?
Claim as much as they want that the Steele dossier WASN'T a primary source, it absolutely was. They know it, the American people know it, yet they refuse to be held accountable.
Because no one holds the Deep State accountable, for ANYTHING.
Claim as much as they want that the Steele dossier WASN'T a primary source, it absolutely was. They know it, the American people know it, yet they refuse to be held accountable.
Because no one holds the Deep State accountable, for ANYTHING.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 5:09 pm
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