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re: Good for Pope Francis
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Lots of Christians (particularly evangelicals) believe in a trickster God
Link? Because this is purely an opinion of yours and it is wrong...that or you are trying to project based off a few who have faulty beliefs then assigning it much larger numbers than actually exist.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:17 pm to Crimson1st
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Because this is purely an opinion of yours and it is wrong
Many evangelicals believe evolution is a lie and the earth is much younger than size says, despite all th evidence indicating otherwise.
The only possible explanation is that god is a trickster who created the Earth and everything in it loaded with evidence of evolution and an old earth knowing that eventually we would develop the technology to discover such evidence.
If the evolution didn't actually occur, why did god make it appear as if it did down to the molecular level?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:18 pm to TN Bhoy
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That's not what you're saying, nor what Pope Francis is arguing against. Christianity posits belief in a rational God, a God that, as Creator, set up the universe with rules. This does not preclude miracles, but it does mean that God won't just start doing things that make no sense, like creating a fully-formed Mt. Everest that floats in the sky over New York. That's all he's talking about, and that's what you seemed to take issue with in your post.
This quote is crystal clear:
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When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.
Many Christians most certainly believe the Genesis account verbatim, and Francis's quote clearly calls a verbatim account into question. You say that God won't just start performing miracles for no good reason...which I also believe...but that's not what he said. Go back and look at the quote again. He clearly said that God is not ABLE to do everything.
The Genesis account clearly states that at one point there was no human life on earth, and then there was suddenly an adult male. When Adam was a year old, he wasn't a toddler, he was an adult male. Francis clearly said that God is not able to do that. That would have required a "magic wand."
In fact, according to the account, the entire world was created in a full grown, adult state. Animal life, plant life. If you could stick Francis on a time machine and send him back to the seventh day in Genesis, when he got there, he wouldn't say the Earth was only a week old.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:20 pm to DragginFly
quote:Because they must be testable and falsifiable; in addition, they are explaining how something works, not just describing it.
If they're real, why call them Theories.
Even things we pretty much universally accept as occurring (germs, gravity, etc.) are theories, despite the support for them.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:21 pm to DragginFly
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why call them Theories.
The same reason gravity, germ and general relativity are theories.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:21 pm to DragginFly
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If they're real, why call them Theories.
Do you not know the definition of a Theory in the scientific sense?
Something can be both Fact and Theory. It doesn't mean theory in the colloquial sense.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:21 pm to Roger Klarvin
i'm not religious, but the pope, however progressive he may think he is, can frick himself ... people don't need the pope to tell them what to think ...
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:23 pm to buckeye_vol
Oh. Like the theory of anthropogenic global warming?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:23 pm to tiderider
quote:So then why did you just tell him to to do?
people don't need the pope to tell them what to think
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:24 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Even things we pretty much universally accept as occurring (germs, gravity, etc.) are theories, despite the support for them.
Shut up cuck
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:24 pm to DragginFly
quote:Yes. Some theories are far stronger than others. It's a broad term they doesn't indicate the level of support for any one theory.
Oh. Like the theory of anthropogenic global warming?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:25 pm to DragginFly
quote:
Oh. Like the theory of anthropogenic global warming?
Actually nothing like that at all.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:26 pm to Vegas Eddie
quote:No.
Shut up cuck
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:31 pm to buckeye_vol
Can scientific theories be disproved even if they have currently wide acceptance?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
So how do Catholics justify that whole "papal infallibility" when it comes to Galileo and the sun, not the earth, being the center of the universe?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:34 pm to mahdragonz
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It's mostly evangelical Christians who love Jesus riding a dinosaur.
Yep, and it looks like a few of these neanderthals are already in this thread.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:34 pm to DragginFly
quote:They must be constructed so that they could be disproven (falsifiable), but often it's just minor components (gravity under certain conditions); it's the self-correcting nature of science.
Can scientific theories be disproved even if they have currently wide acceptance?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:36 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:I don't know, but neither the earth not the sun is the center of the "universe" although the earth does rotate around the sun.
So how do Catholics justify that whole "papal infallibility" when it comes to Galileo and the sun, not the earth, being the center of the universe?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:36 pm to tiderider
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people don't need the pope to tell them what to think ...
Then they also don't need redneck backwoods pastors and the cult mega church leaders to tell them what to think either I guess?
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