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Posted by DragginFly
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:37 pm to
But that means a theory might not be fact at all, no?
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:38 pm to
Most theories are based on a set of principles. They don't have to be setup to be falsifiable. That is called a hypothesis
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:39 pm to
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But that means a theory might not be fact at all, no?
Sure. Some theories have only tentative or conflicting support (global warming, birth-order effects, etc.), while others have a lot of consistent support (evolution, gravity, etc).

The former theories are more likely to be found to be incorrect than the latter.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:39 pm to
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Can scientific theories be disproved even if they have currently wide acceptance?


Yes

As a matter of fact, it's one of the major distinctions between the scientific method and religion.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:40 pm to
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But that means a theory might not be fact at all, no?


Sure, but I don't see many Christians stepping off buildings under the assumption they won't fall.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:41 pm to
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Most theories are based on a set of principles. They don't have to be setup to be falsifiable.
And those theories would be considered psuedoscience, for at least people that follow Popper's principles--which are the prevailing standards.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:41 pm to
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Because this is purely an opinion of yours and it is wrong

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:42 pm to
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So how do Catholics justify that whole "papal infallibility" when it comes to Galileo and the sun, not the earth, being the center of the universe?


The Pope is only believed to be infallible when he speaks "Ex Cathedra".

And the Sun isn't the center of the universe
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:44 pm to
Interestingly enough, popper would be dismayed at the explosion of scientism in our modern society.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:44 pm to
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This is not surprising at all considering he is an Atheist


Are atheists the only people smart enough to understand these things?
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:45 pm to
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popper would be dismayed at the explosion of scientism in our modern society.
What do you mean exactly?
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:46 pm to
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lol Catholics.




Catholics

Pedophile defenders

75% of their religion is unbiblical
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:47 pm to
He's a joke

He wants to be loved by all instead of bringing people to God he wants them to flock him.
Posted by DragginFly
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:48 pm to
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Something can be both Fact and Theory. It doesn't mean theory in the colloquial sense.


So, when does a theory become fact?
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:51 pm to
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So, when does a theory become fact?
A theory is comprised of facts; however, it is set-up so that it can never really be considered an irrefutable fact itself, at least scientifically.
Posted by Big12fan
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:54 pm to
Probably came to that conclusion after seeing an abundance of Neanderthals alive today.
Posted by DragginFly
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:55 pm to
So when the Pope says a theory is "real", he's misstating since it can never be considered an irrefutable fact scientifically?
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:58 pm to
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So when the Pope says a theory is "real", he's misstating since it can never be considered an irrefutable fact scientifically?
Not necessarily. Gravity is real; but it's possible that somewhere in the universe gravity doesn't exist. So scientifically it must be reputable, even if we've observed it as "real" millions of times.
Posted by DragginFly
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:04 pm to
Would you say the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are equal in their reputability?

If not, why not?
Posted by PlaylikeJeter
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:07 pm to
Why wouldn't he believe that? If he believed the Bible that God is everywhere, all knowing and all powerful the Catholic Church would lose tons of money on religious relics of so called saints that you need to pray to. The Catholic Church basically ignores the New Testament the gospel (good news) that any man can speak to God directly through his Son.
Maybe that's why there's so many churches of our lady of sorrows. They've don't believe in the good news lol......
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