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re: Greenland ice core data shows that the earth was 2 degrees warmer 5000 years ago.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:43 am to philter
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:43 am to philter
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Can we also agree that it doesn't matter what we do, the earth's climate will respond one way or another and we're along for the ride?
It does matter what we do. It doesn't matter what the Earth does.
When the volcano starts smoking, you get the frick out of the way, you don't just open another beer and say, "Oh well, nothing we can do about nature".
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:44 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Places like Miami and New Orleans are fricked.
Why Miami?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:48 am to AggieHank86
You mentioned gulf coast so Louisiana and Mississippi are both part of that. If the storms you mentioned were before 6000 years ago then Arkansas , east Texas both should then show signs
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:48 am to AggieHank86
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WE are doing so, and if our actions are moving coastlines and affecting what crops will grow and where, it might be wise to consider changing some of those actions.
Thing is coastlines have always moved and foliage has always changed since the beginning of time. Half the United States used to be underwater. Way before humans did anything.
So why make drastic changes in our lifestyles that leads to less comfort and convenience? Because we are scared something may change? Odds are the changes happen so slow and over time we won’t notice it in our lifetime nor will anyone. People will just slowly adapt like always. That’s why we find remnants of ancient cities underwater and such. The people then adapted, they moved elsewhere. We simply fear the status quo being disrupted and are arrogant enough to think we can prevent it
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:51 am to AggieHank86
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If WE are doing so, and if our actions are moving coastlines and affecting what crops will grow and where, it might be wise to consider changing some of those actions.
Christ on a cracker. The same damn crops are being grown in the same damn states they were being grown in 125 years ago.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:52 am to teke184
quote:The Vikings were around 1000 years ago, not 5000. FWIW, Greenland's southern coast has been habitable since the last stadial recession.
Which should be a “duh” moment considering Greenland was actually populated by Vikings at one point
This ice core data shows us man obviously burned too many hydrocarbons in the 3000 BC timeframe, and we've obviously learned nothing in the interceding 5000 yrs!
The 3000BC warming event was probably due to those damn Egyptians and Babylonians building their environmentally unfriendly, and unnecessary "Wonders of the World" back then.
Those who don't learn from history ...
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:56 am to GumboPot
Only the slowest of people and political zealots believe humans don't affect climate change. Are we causing damage? Is the damage reversible? Questions like these, we can't answer.
With that said, my life is more important to me than that of future generations. So I say to man, keep doing what you're doing.
With that said, my life is more important to me than that of future generations. So I say to man, keep doing what you're doing.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:57 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Too late to stop what, exactly? We literally have no clue, much less control, over what might happen to global temps.
The data is telling us, quite clearly, that these cylces happen over the course of thousands of years and represent mere 2 degrees of average global temps. Your gibberish ignores the elephant in the room. Are you trying to "fix" the earth's natural climate variance in the interest of man? And if so, how do you plan to do that? If my plastic straws need to be banned because a turtle might choke, how tf do you reconcile man made manipulation of climate -- the very sin the climate activists claim to want to fix?
The data is telling us, quite clearly, that these cylces happen over the course of thousands of years and represent mere 2 degrees of average global temps. Your gibberish ignores the elephant in the room. Are you trying to "fix" the earth's natural climate variance in the interest of man? And if so, how do you plan to do that? If my plastic straws need to be banned because a turtle might choke, how tf do you reconcile man made manipulation of climate -- the very sin the climate activists claim to want to fix?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:00 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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When the volcano starts smoking, you get the frick out of the way, you don't just open another beer and say, "Oh well, nothing we can do about nature".
This is fricking stupid. I cant "get out of the way" of the planet.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:01 am to Flats
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Why Miami?
Theoretically, if just the Greenland ice sheet were to completely melt, then global sea level would rise by more than 20 feet.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:04 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Theoretically,
Oh.
Still sorta silly to group it with New Orleans.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:06 am to Vacherie Saint
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Are you trying to "fix" the earth's natural climate variance in the interest of man?
No, you goddamned fricking idiot, I'm saying when the water's rising, head to fricking high ground. Don't just sit there arguing about why the water's rising.
Why is this so fricking hard for some people to understand?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:08 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, you goddamned fricking idiot, I'm saying when the water's rising, head to fricking high ground. Don't just sit there arguing about why the water's rising.
If the RATE at which the water is rising isn't part of your equation you're the fricking idiot.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:09 am to Vacherie Saint
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This is fricking stupid. I cant "get out of the way" of the planet.
So you ARE a fricking idiot.
So you'd just sit there and burn. "Well, nothing I can do about nature!"
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:10 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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So you'd just sit there and burn. "Well, nothing I can do about nature!"
Quite the shift from “man made global warming”.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:12 am to WildTchoupitoulas
so do you want man to manipulate the natural climate or not?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:12 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Ah yes. The Louisiana flooding coast conundrum. The Gulf of Mexico sea level is selectively higher along the Louisiana coast than it is anywhere else, hence the selective inundation of the coastline.
There's really only one solution for coastal Louisiana, move inland and quit wasting money trying to rebuild a flooding coast.
Physics and subsidence be damned. Does that about sum up your "science"?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:12 am to BBONDS25
The place I am sitting was covered by 3,000' of ice 10,000 years ago.
It will be again in another 10,000.
It will be again in another 10,000.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:12 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, you goddamned fricking idiot
you sho iz angreh
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:14 am to Flats
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If the RATE at which the water is rising isn't part of your equation you're the fricking idiot.
Why wouldn't you consider the rate?
Is the rate of sea-level rise increasing?
Yes. Relying on nearly a 30-year record of satellite measurements, scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches (3.4 millimeters) per year. And during this satellite period, 1993 to present, emerging indications suggest the mean (average) rate of global mean sea-level rise has increased – from about 0.1 inches (2.5 millimeters) to 0.13 inches (3.4 millimeters). Further measurements in coming years, by the Sentinel-6/Michael Freilich satellite, the Surface Water and Ocean Topography (SWOT) satellite, and others, will help establish the rate of increase more precisely.
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