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Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:07 am to
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
21753 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:07 am to
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My prediction is Trump takes HI and NY





I truly wish it were true, but I just don't see it.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14655 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:09 am to
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It does seem youre gaining black anx latin votes but youre losing white and elderly voters. At best its a wash for you but in reality its not even that.



Do you honestly know ANYONE who voted for Trump in 2016, that is voting for Biden in 2020?

I think you'd have a better chance finding Bigfoot.
Posted by LSU2019
Encino
Member since Sep 2020
166 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:10 am to
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lol no.

If you want to cite polls when they say what you want to hear then ignore them when they dont then I guess thats what youre gonna do. Reality is gonna eventually find you either way.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28960 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:10 am to
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2. You will see that you can play with the demographics to create your own scenario. If you only move Trumps support from blacks from 8% to 13% without changing anything else Trump has enough electoral votes to win.


Actually, it does no such thing. It doesn't allow you to make those changes on a state by state basis. Trump could get 100% of the black vote in Alabama, and it won't get him one single electoral vote more than he would have had. His black and Hispanic numbers could skyrocket in Alabama, Mississippi. Louisiana, and Tennessee, and a dozen other states, drop slightly in Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania, giving him an overall increase nationwide in black votes, yet losing the electoral count.

Nationwide polls are useless. There are only a few states that are going to decide the election, and most of us don't live in one.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14655 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:11 am to
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If he wins HI and New York...... actually either or..... my faith in humanity is restored.


He has a far better chance with NY, than he will ever have with HI. That state will never vote for a republican.
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:12 am to
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Trump could get 100% of the black vote in Alabama, and it won't get him one single electoral vote more than he would have had. His black and Hispanic numbers could skyrocket in Alabama, Mississippi. Louisiana, and Tennessee, and a dozen other states, drop slightly in Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania, giving him an overall increase nationwide in black votes, yet losing the electoral count.


That’s true, but ultra implausible. Is there any evidence that a shift in the black vote is a regional phenomenon that won’t be felt largely across black populations of all regions?

My guess is a shift in the black vote in will be similarly felt across states, obviously in proportion to their black population.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3642 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:15 am to
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My prediction is Trump takes HI and NY

He will win Cali on election night but then the mail in starts


Hell to the no. NY will be a massive spread and Hawaii is a lost cause.

California will be +30 for Biden.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
94583 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:16 am to
When you reset it, it goes to default Biden 307 electoral votes.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14488 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:17 am to
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When you reset it, it goes to default Biden 307 electoral votes


Yeah because that’s NBC’s prediction without any alterations.
Posted by LSU2019
Encino
Member since Sep 2020
166 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:17 am to
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Nationwide polls are useless. There are only a few states that are going to decide the election, and most of us don't live in one.
there should be some sort of aggregate target poll with the key states each needs to win, that would be the only true indicator and one that matters. On election day clinton was projected to win by 3 million total votes.

She did.

Guess if that was useful.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20792 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:24 am to
20 million illegal ballots will show up in the mail
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28960 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:26 am to
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Trump could get 100% of the black vote in Alabama, and it won't get him one single electoral vote more than he would have had. His black and Hispanic numbers could skyrocket in Alabama, Mississippi. Louisiana, and Tennessee, and a dozen other states, drop slightly in Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania, giving him an overall increase nationwide in black votes, yet losing the electoral count.


That’s true, but ultra implausible. Is there any evidence that a shift in the black vote is a regional phenomenon that won’t be felt largely across black populations of all regions?

My guess is a shift in the black vote in will be similarly felt across states, obviously in proportion to their black population.


My basic point is that this website doesn't allow for changing the demographics on a state by state basis.

Let's say that you want to adjust Trump's support among blacks up 5%. What's the total black voting population in Michigan and Alabama? How about Minnesota?

And what if his black numbers in Wisconsin, for example, go up, but it's because more blacks stay home? Just using round numbers, If 2,000,000 blacks voted last time and he got 10%, that's 200,000 votes. If his percentage jumps to 15% this time, but only 1,000,000 vote, that's a drop of 50,000 votes.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4166 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:30 am to
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losing white and elderly voters


I find this hard to believe.
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:34 am to
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My basic point is that this website doesn't allow for changing the demographics on a state by state basis.


It absolutely does do this. Look at the feature that says which states flipped.

Make the black vote go 30% more GOP than it was previously and VA goes blue while NH doesn’t. On the surface that doesn’t make sense cause VA was far more blue than NH in 2016. The reason the site makes VA red and NH not red is Virginia has a moderate sized black population and NH has virtually no black population.

Obviously I’m not predicting that type of shift but the site absolutely is considering the different demographic percentages of a state.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:45 am to
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Speaking of Telemundo.... wonder how they were able to translate that crazy debate from English to Spanish. That would have been interesting to watch.


Like watching those football highlights in Spanish

I want to see the sign language interpreter too
Posted by LSU2019
Encino
Member since Sep 2020
166 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:45 am to
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Do you honestly know ANYONE who voted for Trump in 2016, that is voting for Biden in 2020? 
well I only personally knew 3 to begin with a 2 have died of old age. So.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56783 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:47 am to
Trump is not going to win no matter how many votes he gets. This is a takeover of our government going on by Washington insiders. Civil war is all that will save this nation. If you are not buying gums and ammo you are an idiot.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28960 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:50 am to
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My basic point is that this website doesn't allow for changing the demographics on a state by state basis.


It absolutely does do this. Look at the feature that says which states flipped.

Make the black vote go 30% more GOP than it was previously and VA goes blue while NH doesn’t. On the surface that doesn’t make sense cause VA was far more blue than NH in 2016. The reason the site makes VA red and NH not red is Virginia has a moderate sized black population and NH has virtually no black population.

Obviously I’m not predicting that type of shift but the site absolutely is considering the different demographic percentages of a state.


That may be true, but if his percentage of a demographic goes up because more voters stay home, that doesn't necessarily help him. 15% of one million isn't better than 10% of two million.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19913 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:51 am to
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My prediction is Trump takes HI and NY

He will win Cali on election night but then the mail in starts

A Republican candidate will not win any of those states in the foreseeable future.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24780 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:52 am to
Hispanic here,

HAIL TRUMP
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