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re: How do you think the meetings at Gillette went today

Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:23 pm to
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NFL stadium with your name on it!! That’s as masculine as it gets.


Yeah, real men

FK the NFL
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20097 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:23 pm to
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I’d love to see what the demographics of the marketing team who made the ad look like


Not fricking kidding. Every person involved with this deserves a pink slip. Needs to be a lesson to the Progressive idiots that chirp in on this board. You “toxic masculinity white privileged” bull shite is getting old and the general population is really tired of you lack of testosterone.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27140 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:24 pm to
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You'll get over it.


Well you are the one that was seeing things.

But I'm sure you're okay now.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:25 pm to
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Outrage is short lived


As was the Kaep campaign.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120105 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:26 pm to
They actually could redeem themselves if they changed the ad to don’t abandon your kids and teach them to use their aggression to be gentlemen. Toxic masculinity is the result of fathers who don’t raise their fricking kids. They’re raised by single moms, have nothing but female teachers, and female social workers come in and out of their one bedroom apartment, and by the time a male role model comes into his life, he’s a member of a gang, and then the kid is in prison by the age of 22 having impregnated 3 chicks along the way, and thus starting the whole cycle over again.

But it’s too late for them to do something like this and tell men act like fricking men. Pretty much they said turn your boy into a fricking girl.

I do love how they started off the commercial with bullying texting, when girls do that 5 to 1 to boys.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 9:27 pm
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32121 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:26 pm to
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I actually heard the outside consultants, testers, and advisors strongly advised against it, and they did it anyway. Apparently it’s (ignoring outside advice) been a recurring problem at P&G recently, too, and not just with this campaign


It’s a topic for another discussion but I’m noticing an overwhelming change in business structure where it’s not about the bottom dollar but “giving back,” “tackling social issues,” “equality,” and the like. Companies are ok to lose money. I think the “boycott” talk is stupid. It takes Jane Fonda levels of assholery for me to boycott.

There is no way Nike, Gillette, that wood company commercial, from the SB a few years back ran those commercials without certain higher ups signing off on it, regardless of the blowback.

I’m an “avid” hiker and trail runner and most of my instagram follows are trail running, shoes, and outdoor companies (North Face, Columbia, etc.). The outdoor companies have made some asinine posts lately about parks being closed and doing everything but blaming Trump. I’m shocked that half are people disappointed in the companies and saying they’re done with their products. The companies’ response has been to double down.

We’re in a new world where companies care less about their bottom dollar and more about their message/virtue signaling.

I’m not saying that’s right or wrong but it’s a changing dynamic.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:28 pm to
If you seek help you will be find. Don't let your delusion get you down.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9062 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:29 pm to
Yea, that doesn't come close to explaining it. As another poster stated, virtual lifeblood of the marketing industry is focus group testing. They always have at least some understanding of how folks will respond to their ads, even living in a west coast bubble.

So I’ll repeat,
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Any particular reason we should believe that this was from an “insider”?
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27140 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:30 pm to
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If you seek help you will be find. Don't let your delusion get you down.


I'll be find?

Find What? You might need to get some rest, probably stop watching this commercial that angers you so much.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 9:30 pm
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:30 pm to
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Remember when everyone melted about Nike? I do and I don't think they're going away. Outrage is short lived


The pain for Gillette, Nike, and Target will be long-term, where many customers will NEVER go back. These customers and their family will be lost permanently.

Some will go back, but some are gone for good.
I still will not set foot in Target, and have not bought any Nike since their debacle.
No Gillette for me, and that is permanent.
I will not buy and Nike sponsored Gillette razors from Target.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:30 pm to
The world needs more Don Drapers and fewer Punjab Singhpussies.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:32 pm to
What commercial do you think I'm watching?

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101554 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:32 pm to
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The thing that keeps being repeated is that they had no idea that this would be taken negative


This is what happens when you hire nothing but leftists who live in a bubble.

If I were a major company I’d have a pretty diverse marketing team these days consisting of different races, genders, and political ideologies. You’d have to have that if your goal is to appeal to the majority of people
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:32 pm to
I didn't care for the ad, but it didn't really bother me, which is worrisome but I figure it has to be one of two possibilities.

1. I read about it and read comments way before I watched the spot and by that time my expectations were so big that it sidn't meet them
or
2. I have become desensitized to companies throwing around their beliefs into my daily life that it just doesn't even bother me anymore.


I hope it's #1 because I don't want to be another brainwashed liberal.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22665 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Bhalla said Gillette "was not trying to be part of fad" but has "the responsibility of talking to our consumers about what we can be doing better, and that’s what this campaign is about."


That’s where I have a gripe. You sell fricking razors. Why do you think that there’s a social responsibility associated with that?
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 10:05 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120105 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:33 pm to
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Remember when everyone melted about Nike


This is different from Nike. A large portion of people that buy Nikes are African Americans. Nike could gamble losing some of the White market in order to sell more shoes and some clothes to blacks that feel oppressed. They were directly appealing to their target market, and it succeeded.

Gillette gave their target market the middle finger, called us all pieces of shite, that we should all fall into line with intersectionality, and to shut the frick up from this day forward unless you agreed with them. Seriously, maybe like 10% of men tops would this appeal to. It’s retarded what Gillette did. They pretty much put a bullet to their own head.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 7:29 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101554 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:33 pm to
Nike wasn’t near as bad as this. Nike didn’t bother me that much but this was ridiculous
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:34 pm to
This was planned to get all the hipsters lefties to buy razors and shave their beards. Manly men are shaving theirs.
short term bump in revenue that probably will mean nothing in the long term. I'm guessing the probably make the cheapo razors for walmart and this will bump some people to buy the slightly more expensive ones helping their margins. once again all short term. Right now i'm getting ads from Harry's blades... and not gillete if that says anything
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120105 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Have you ever been to New York or Boston?

Life is different there. The people who live there have a different world view than the rest of the country just because of how they live.


Have you been to Boston? I don’t think this message would register with Bostonians I’ve known.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Not the same thing, Nike was pandering to black people. Obviously they would benefit as blacks rally around other blacks especially if they feel slighted by whites.


Black people make up roughly 13% of the population

You'd think that move would have worked out terribly for them right?
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