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re: I am against seatbelt laws (and helmet laws) for adults
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:30 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:30 pm to weagle1999
quote:LINK
In 2023, 23,959 passenger vehicle occupants were killed. Nearly 50% of those killed were not buckled (based on known seat belt use).
Seat belts saved an estimated 14,955 lives and could have saved an additional 2,549 people if they had been wearing seat belts, in 2017 alone.
The consequences of not wearing, or improperly wearing, a seat belt are clear:
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:35 pm to retired_tiger
quote:
In 2023, 23,959 passenger vehicle occupants were killed. Nearly 50% of those killed were not buckled (based on known seat belt use).
So the majority that died were buckled.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:46 pm to weagle1999
Oh, the old foreign aid seatbelt scam…
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:47 pm to weagle1999
Seat belts save lives. I’ve witnessed a family van get into a bad wreck. The ones not wearing seat belts ended up in the back seat piled on each other. The mom was critical, her 2 daughters dead. Grandpa and grandma buckled up and were hurt bad but both survived. They were T-boned by a drunk driver but can’t imagine the guilt that grandpa felt for not making sure everyone was wearing a seat belt.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:52 pm to weagle1999
Seatbelt laws have demonstrably saved lives and reduced serious injuries, thereby lessening the overall burden to society?
I wear a seatbelt because it’s smart, not so much because it’s law.
I wear a seatbelt because it’s smart, not so much because it’s law.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:06 pm to AndyJ
That's what insurance is for. Her der.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:10 pm to retired_tiger
I don't doubt the wisdom of using seatbelts... but your quote doesn't do a lot to prove it.
It presents a fact; actual deaths and belted vs unbelted- that leans slightly in favor of unbelted.
Then it presents an "estimated" number of belted lives saved, compounded by an even more "estimated" number of lives that "could" have been saved.
The only FACT presented proves a tossup slightly against seatbelt usage.
It presents a fact; actual deaths and belted vs unbelted- that leans slightly in favor of unbelted.
Then it presents an "estimated" number of belted lives saved, compounded by an even more "estimated" number of lives that "could" have been saved.
The only FACT presented proves a tossup slightly against seatbelt usage.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:11 pm to TheGeauxt9
quote:
Is this a troll?
No, it is just a regular ol' Weagle1999 thread.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:24 pm to weagle1999
Well id be dead if not for years of forcing myself into the habit afraid of PD spinning on me. So thanks "authoritarian gubment"
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:30 pm to weagle1999
You think insurance prices are high now? People that aren’t wearing seatbelts are going to have way more traumatic injuries and much costlier hospital stays.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:03 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
It makes no sense that a state that has a seatbelt mandate doesn't also have a motorcycle helmet mandate.
South Carolina says hello
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:13 am to weagle1999
Laws which protect individuals from themselves are violations of personal freedom. If the goal is saving lives or money from injuries then govt should ban cars or put highway speed limits at 10 mph. Govt should give tickets to anyone over normal body weight. It could be $10 per pound. Sky diving would be banned. The list goes on.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 5:38 am to weagle1999
Go talk to any veteran state trooper about what he has seen on the highways over the years, and I think that you might change your mind.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 5:47 am to AndyJ
quote:what’s one or two more?
Because the state (taxpayers) will be financially responsible for your dumb, disabled arse
Posted on 11/24/25 at 5:51 am to weagle1999
How's the weather in Bangladesh?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:27 am to SallysHuman
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I wear my seatbelt and would do so absent a law... but yeah, I don't agree wearing seatbelts or helmets for adults should be law.
THIS !
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:39 am to 4cubbies
quote:my state doesn't have a helmet law for motorcycles but, IMO, only an idiot would get on a motorcycle without one. Aside from the obvious danger involved in an accident, I had a carpenter bee hit my faceshield at 50mph and it sounded like a .22 bullet.
I make my kids wear helmets even when they ride scooters. It’s not worth the risk.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:54 am to weagle1999
You don't have to wear seatbelts. You can drive on your property without seatbelts, without insurance, and drunk if you'd like.
If you aint got no property, then you're fukked
If you aint got no property, then you're fukked
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:17 am to weagle1999
Seatbelts also keep you from slamming the roof of the car and messing up your back for the rest of your life. It keeps you in the seat.
People mention motorcycles. When the motorcycle comes to an abrupt stop the person goes flying off it. That’s what you are doing, but inside a car.
People mention motorcycles. When the motorcycle comes to an abrupt stop the person goes flying off it. That’s what you are doing, but inside a car.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 7:20 am
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:27 am to weagle1999
I'm against paying for poor lifestyle choices.
Poor lifestyle choices like obesity and not wearing a helmet translate into billions of dollars in healthcare costs every year, and on an individual level, they mean thousands of dollars more in medical bills and lost productivity.
Poor lifestyle choices like obesity and not wearing a helmet translate into billions of dollars in healthcare costs every year, and on an individual level, they mean thousands of dollars more in medical bills and lost productivity.
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