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Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:07 am to
Your answers are always questions.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 3:33 pm to
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That statement speaks to God’s eternality... Only in the first chapters of Genesis. Why is that?
Because man did not exist. Because we know from the fossil and geologic record that life on Earth did not zip thru the Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and 99.999% of the Cenozoic Eras in 150hrs.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 7:04 pm to
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quote:Why have the apes not evolved?

I'm sorry, but I have to ask on this board, is this a serious question?


Well a reasonable thinking person would see the fallacies in so called scientists saying humans evolved from apes and yet apes are still apes. Capiche?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 7:54 pm to
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Because man did not exist. Because we know from the fossil and geologic record that life on Earth did not zip thru the Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and 99.999% of the Cenozoic Eras in 150hrs.

That's the question the simulation programmed into our consciousness for us to ask.

The Fermi Paradox prevents us from ever leaving our immediate Space.

Our reality will remain limited to what the simulation gives us until we reach the same sentient level as our maker ... which will not happen until we have a unifying solution that puts us in the realm between the Relative and the Quantum, and that will never be allowed. We'll be shut down before that happens ... before we're allowed to exist in that Space between the two. And String Theory is a bunch of BS.

That Space, between the two, is where God exists.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:00 am to
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Because man did not exist. Because we know from the fossil and geologic record that life on Earth did not zip thru the Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and 99.999% of the Cenozoic Eras in 150hrs.
And there it is: this is what I’ve been saying. The reason the word “day” must be long ages is not because of the text or the grammar used, but because the infallible word of God must be interpreted in light of man’s fallible understanding of the natural world. Thank you for saying so.

My response to the time-zip is that I believe we did. The global flood laid down sediment that buried life quickly.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:13 am to
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Well a reasonable thinking person would see the fallacies in so called scientists saying humans evolved from apes and yet apes are still apes. Capiche?


Are you retarded? Science does not say that humans evolved from apes. Again, our educational system has failed us. Although sometimes I think that you creationists deliberately misconstrue evolution so that you can prop up your viewpoint.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:19 am to
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It’s 2026, and there are still people who think like this. That’s crazy. You’d have us all living in squalor and taking shelter during thunderstorms because they’re the wrath of the gods.
I suppose when you don’t like something said, the natural response is to ridicule it rather than deal with it honestly.

No, I don’t think everyone living in squalor is necessary. Observational science is a good thing, as I already alluded to, and it is certainly helpful in a lot of ways related to technology and improvements to standard of living. Rejecting what I believe to be false theories about the past does not necessitate the abandonment of all scientific pursuit.

And no, I don’t believe we need to hunker down during thunder storms because of “the gods”. For one, there are no gods but one, and two, there is no teaching that all thunder is from God’s wrath. If anything, thunder and lightning are associated with God’s sovereign power over creation, but there is nothing that states lighting is a supernatural expression of judgment every time you see the flash of light and hear the roar of the thunder. You are using the superstitions of other non-biblical accounts to belittle Christians to take God’s word seriously.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:20 am to
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I'm not sure how reliable someone's critical thinking abilities are if they still believe complex life was birthed from a single cell organism in a primordial soup somewhere on earth 4 billion years ago.

Not hard to believe. The human brain can't grasp how long 4 billion years actually is.
Posted by John somers
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:24 am to
homo lol
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:02 am to
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John somers


Literal retard.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:23 am to
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The reason the word “day” must be long ages is not because of the text or the grammar used, but because the infallible word of God must be interpreted in light of man’s fallible understanding of the natural world.


Imagine saying this about a creation story that creates vegetation BEFORE the sun.

Hey Foo, how long are these "long ages"? Just wondering how long plants went without sunlight and didn't die.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:34 am to
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My response to the time-zip is that I believe we did. The global flood laid down sediment that buried life quickly.
There is so much wrong with that statement Foo, that I doubt productive discussion is possible. Perhaps your lack of scientific understanding enables your religious view, rather than the other way around (as I'd previously assumed). So you are saved from recognizing the insurmountable contradictions between your beliefs and actual science.

Suffice it to say, one flood might correspond to one layer, if even that. The K-Pg boundary varies significantly in thickness based on its proximity to the 66 million yr-old Chicxulub crater in the Gulf of Mexico. In distant areas it's only millimeters thick. In others. it's tens to hundreds of feet. There are 40-50 such layers viewable in the Grand Canyon, but the 66M yr old K-Pg boundary is not one of them. D/t erosion the youngest most superficial rocks there are 200 million yrs old. Its K-Pg boundary washed away eons ago.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:35 am to
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Imagine saying this about a creation story that creates vegetation BEFORE the sun.
Forgive me if I was unclear. I wasn't making this statement as a representation of my own position, but as a call-out to what I've said in previous posts, namely that those who object to the literal 24-hour days of creation do so not because of biblical and grammatical reasons, but because of assumptions and beliefs developed from outside of the text that are then imported to the text.

In other words, those who argue that the Bible is teaching long ages rather than normal days aren't drawing that conclusion from the text, but from other beliefs.

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Hey Foo, how long are these "long ages"? Just wondering how long plants went without sunlight and didn't die.
I'm not arguing for long ages. I agree that text doesn't support long ages.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:16 am to
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those who argue that the Bible is teaching long ages rather than normal days aren't drawing that conclusion from the text, but from other beliefs.
You're entitled to your opinion, but not your personal factset.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:06 pm to
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That's the question the simulation programmed into our consciousness for us to ask.

The Fermi Paradox prevents us from ever leaving our immediate Space.

Our reality will remain limited to what the simulation gives us until we reach the same sentient level as our maker ... which will not happen until we have a unifying solution that puts us in the realm between the Relative and the Quantum, and that will never be allowed. We'll be shut down before that happens ... before we're allowed to exist in that Space between the two. And String Theory is a bunch of BS.
I disagree. Simulation theory actually makes the Fermi Paradox irrelevant.

The Fermi Paradox assumes we are in a normal physical universe where advanced civilizations expand, leave detectable signatures, and eventually spread across large portions of the galaxy. If that assumption holds, then the silence becomes puzzling.

But if reality is a simulation, that assumption collapses. The universe could simply be a bounded environment with whatever parameters the simulation designer chose. Civilizations might never expand beyond certain limits because the simulation doesn’t include anything beyond those limits, or because the system constrains outcomes in ways we can’t see from inside it.

In that scenario, the absence of visible alien civilizations doesn’t really tell us anything about how common intelligence is. It would only tell us something about the rules of the simulation.

So I’m not sure I understand how you can cite both ideas together. The Fermi Paradox only has force if we assume we’re in a normal physical universe. Simulation theory removes that assumption. Could you explain how you see those two fitting together?

If anything, the fact that simulation theory neatly resolves the Fermi Paradox is one of the stronger arguments in its favor.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:12 pm to
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Well a reasonable thinking person would see the fallacies in so called scientists saying humans evolved from apes and yet apes are still apes. Capiche?
An educated person would know that the theory actually says humans and modern apes share a common ancestor. So asking “why are apes still here” is like asking why your cousin exists if you and your cousin both came from the same grandparents. Evolution doesn’t eliminate every branch except one. It produces multiple branches from the same ancestral line. Get it?

Probably not.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Are you retarded? Science does not say that humans evolved from apes. Again, our educational system has failed us. Although sometimes I think that you creationists deliberately misconstrue evolution so that you can prop up your viewpoint.
It's frustrating hearing the same mischaracterizations of the theory repeated over and over.

That said, I don’t think most people making those arguments are inventing it themselves. They’re just repeating lies and mischaracterizations they’ve been taught. That’s why the same bullshite false arguments ("why are there still apes?") show up so consistently. They’re coming from the same sources.

So while the arguments are bullshite, I try to keep in mind that many people repeating it believe they’re representing the theory accurately because that’s how it was explained to them.

But, yes, the education system failed them.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Well you certainly doxxed your Uncle.

Good post by the way
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:32 pm to
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As the late Dr. Greg Bahnsen used to say, no matter how much you toy with the ingredients, a cake mix cannot produce a political constitution (like the U.S. Constitution).


I remember being taught in junior high school that spontaneous generation (that living creatures could arise from non-living matter) had been proven to be false...yet atheists rely on a version of to to explain the beginning of life.

As far as the supposed evidence that the earth is billions of years old...if you believe the Genesis account, if the day after trees were created you had cut one down, how many rings would you count? How old did the Earth appear to be?
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 1:34 pm to
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Who are these dumb liberals?


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