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Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:04 pm to ApexTiger
Expecting them to be productive citizens who contribute to society like every other race of people in the US.
That is the systemic racism being directed towards black people.
That is the systemic racism being directed towards black people.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:20 pm to ApexTiger
Something that hasn't existed in the US outside of Democrat Party pandering in decades.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:20 pm to ApexTiger
I know, TLDR
I don't see it as oppression, but there is an inherent prejudice, and many, not all, blacks share the exact same prejudice.
There are many that give odd looks or corrupt cops, fewer in number, but still relevant, that treat blacks more harshly than whites or other races. Now this could be for a variety of reasons such as past criminal history, past experiences with similar profiles/vehicle make/model, but I'd argue it's a little more ingrained into society. Not systematically mind you.
Hollywood is the perfect example. You have actors that go out of their way to promote BLM this and that. Yet they turn around and act, produce or write a film that takes place in a rough neighborhood filled with blacks. There have been numerous experiments that give civilians a split millisecond to make a decision on whether to act with lethal force or not when shown an individual holding an item such as a gun or wallet. All races used lethal force on black profiles more times than not.
Why? Personal experiences. growing up? Maybe but I think we can in many cases blame ourselves. The biggest blame however is self-inflicted. People today have a hard time accepting that their decisions, whether good or bad, reflect their outcome. Equal opportunity is absolutely a right. The outcome is not. These decisions aren't just about being a law-abiding citizen but getting out and exercising your God-given right to vote, to protest, to assemble and discuss how certain politicians promise you the moon and use you for your vote, ect. The black community uses the black vote. They aren't alone though. Some of their so-called biggest allies and friends, the Black Churches are some of the biggest criminals in it all. Accepting funds from lobbyists, politicians, and bribes all to elect officials that continue to push a liberal agenda of high taxes, increasing criminality, and unconstitutional laws and legislation that keep the black community dependent on gov handouts.
Take the movie example again for a moment but use it for the arguments of Gun Control.
These same actors, writers, and producers speak out against gun violence yet their films, games, and tv series speak the opposite message. They are filled with explosions, gun shootings, and violence that stars the hero running through a blaze of gunfire with hist own pistols running hot. They sit there making 100's of millions all while virtue signaling us for being violent.
I don't see it as oppression, but there is an inherent prejudice, and many, not all, blacks share the exact same prejudice.
There are many that give odd looks or corrupt cops, fewer in number, but still relevant, that treat blacks more harshly than whites or other races. Now this could be for a variety of reasons such as past criminal history, past experiences with similar profiles/vehicle make/model, but I'd argue it's a little more ingrained into society. Not systematically mind you.
Hollywood is the perfect example. You have actors that go out of their way to promote BLM this and that. Yet they turn around and act, produce or write a film that takes place in a rough neighborhood filled with blacks. There have been numerous experiments that give civilians a split millisecond to make a decision on whether to act with lethal force or not when shown an individual holding an item such as a gun or wallet. All races used lethal force on black profiles more times than not.
Why? Personal experiences. growing up? Maybe but I think we can in many cases blame ourselves. The biggest blame however is self-inflicted. People today have a hard time accepting that their decisions, whether good or bad, reflect their outcome. Equal opportunity is absolutely a right. The outcome is not. These decisions aren't just about being a law-abiding citizen but getting out and exercising your God-given right to vote, to protest, to assemble and discuss how certain politicians promise you the moon and use you for your vote, ect. The black community uses the black vote. They aren't alone though. Some of their so-called biggest allies and friends, the Black Churches are some of the biggest criminals in it all. Accepting funds from lobbyists, politicians, and bribes all to elect officials that continue to push a liberal agenda of high taxes, increasing criminality, and unconstitutional laws and legislation that keep the black community dependent on gov handouts.
Take the movie example again for a moment but use it for the arguments of Gun Control.
These same actors, writers, and producers speak out against gun violence yet their films, games, and tv series speak the opposite message. They are filled with explosions, gun shootings, and violence that stars the hero running through a blaze of gunfire with hist own pistols running hot. They sit there making 100's of millions all while virtue signaling us for being violent.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:22 pm to memphisplaya
Yes long but want to read. Thus this inane reply in lieu of bookmark so I can hit the my posts button.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:22 pm to ApexTiger
All laws and institutions in America are set up for white people to prosper, and black people to fail.
That’s the short and direct of it.
That’s the short and direct of it.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:22 pm to ApexTiger
It’s basically a way to say that black people are victims and it’s all whitey’s fault.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:27 pm to CoachDon
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All laws and institutions in America are set up for white people to prosper, and black people to fail.
That’s the short and direct of it.
I hope to the Lord that you are merely describing what crazy people think.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:29 pm to ApexTiger
Systematic Oppression? These guys are like Nostradamus because this is exactly whats happening today.
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The Inalienable Rights scene from "Monty Python's Life of Brian"
(A huge Roman amphitheatre, sparsely attended. REG, FRANCIS, STAN and JUDITH are seated in the stands. They speak conspiratorially.)
Judith: Any Anti-Imperialist group like ours must *reflect* such a divergence of interests within its power-base.
Reg: Agreed. (General nodding.) Francis? Francis: I think Judith's point of view is valid here, Reg, provided the Movement never forgets that it is the inalienable right of every man--
Stan: Or woman. Francis: Or woman...to rid himself--
Stan: Or herself.
Reg: Or herself. Agreed. Thank you, brother.
Stan: Or sister. Francis: Thank you, brother. Or sister. Where was I?
Reg: I thought you'd finished. Francis: Oh, did I? Right.
Reg: Furthermore, it is the birthright of every man ...
Stan: Or woman.
Reg: Why don't you shut up about women, Stan, you're putting us off.
Stan: Women have a perfect right to play a part in our movement, Reg.
Francis: Why are you always on about women, Stan?
Stan: (pause) I want to be one. (pregnant pause)
Reg: What?
Stan: I want to be a woman. From now on I want you all to call me Loretta.
Reg: What!?
Stan: It's my right as a man.
Judith: Why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
Stan: I want to have babies.
Reg: You want to have babies?!?!?!
Stan: It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
Reg: But you can't have babies.
Stan: Don't you oppress me.
Reg: I'm not oppressing you, Stan -- you haven't got a womb. Where's the fetus going to gestate? You going to keep it in a box? (Stan starts crying.)
Judith: Here! I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans', but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister, sorry.
Reg: (pissed) What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression. Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:34 pm to memphisplaya
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I don't see it as oppression, but there is an inherent prejudice, and many, not all, blacks share the exact same prejudice. There are many that give odd looks or corrupt cops, fewer in number, but still relevant, that treat blacks more harshly than whites or other races. Now this could be for a variety of reasons such as past criminal history, past experiences with similar profiles/vehicle make/model, but I'd argue it's a little more ingrained into society. Not systematically mind you. Hollywood is the perfect example. You have actors that go out of their way to promote BLM this and that. Yet they turn around and act, produce or write a film that takes place in a rough neighborhood filled with blacks. There have been numerous experiments that give civilians a split millisecond to make a decision on whether to act with lethal force or not when shown an individual holding an item such as a gun or wallet. All races used lethal force on black profiles more times than not. Why? Personal experiences. growing up? Maybe but I think we can in many cases blame ourselves. The biggest blame however is self-inflicted. People today have a hard time accepting that their decisions, whether good or bad, reflect their outcome. Equal opportunity is absolutely a right. The outcome is not. These decisions aren't just about being a law-abiding citizen but getting out and exercising your God-given right to vote, to protest, to assemble and discuss how certain politicians promise you the moon and use you for your vote, ect. The black community uses the black vote. They aren't alone though. Some of their so-called biggest allies and friends, the Black Churches are some of the biggest criminals in it all. Accepting funds from lobbyists, politicians, and bribes all to elect officials that continue to push a liberal agenda of high taxes, increasing criminality, and unconstitutional laws and legislation that keep the black community dependent on gov handouts. Take the movie example again for a moment but use it for the arguments of Gun Control. These same actors, writers, and producers speak out against gun violence yet their films, games, and tv series speak the opposite message. They are filled with explosions, gun shootings, and violence that stars the hero running through a blaze of gunfire with hist own pistols running hot. They sit there making 100's of millions all while virtue signaling us for being violent.
This is an excellent write up of your opinion and thank you for providing it. So do you think that there really is systemic racism?
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:35 pm to ApexTiger
A figment of the imagination
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:59 pm to ABearsFanNMS
I had this argument with a friend the other day and she made some good points, but yes I do think there is a system in place to keep them down but it's not the one they want to hear about.
Welfare. It was 100% created to keep those less fortunate to depend on the gov. Then you had the crime bill of 1994 that took black fathers out of the homes and gave way to 100s of thousands of single-parent homes. We all know how that affects the welfare check.
I don't agree with BLM on most issues but I do think there is an ingrained, yet unconscious prejudice towards the black community. Especially within law enforcement.
They do get profiled more, asked to exit their car more when pulled over, and are treated in a different manner than other races. That goes for cops of all races. Not all cops though.
So for an example picture a black man, no outstanding warrants, no criminal history, but he's driving a beat-up Pontiac Grand Am.
Like I said before that could be based on a previous stop, profile fitting an open warrant, car matching a certain make/model, but we have to remember a few things. Something we on the right always argue.
Innocent until proven guilty. It seems some of these frequent stops are more guilty until proven innocent. These stops can lead to a mental change in behavior as well. Less likely to trust the police, be less cooperative in the future, teach their children the same, they take what they watch on youtube and in the movies and misquote or understand the laws (Miranda rights is a perfect example). In addition to these mental changes, you can see some physical. Most caused by fear. Fear in many cases they shouldn't have. It is ingrained, however. Fear can cause a semblance of nervousness or be anxious. Cops can misread this as intent and give a reason to question the individual beyond "License and proof of insurance."
Now, all that can be the case, but some of the black community in return don't give the police much help. I remember there is only one unsolved murder in the history of the town I grew up in. He was the first black alderman and owned a grocery/convent store. He was one night murdered for what they think was drug money. He was an outstanding member of society and gladly would have given whatever the perp asked for. To this day the community behind the store talk about it and we know they know who did it, but they refuse to talk to the police and help them solve the murder.
That has to change and it's gonna take police like the one that played basketball with the kids that Shaq later joined, more outreach, and building additional trust. Part of that can happen in the community but another part could happen when they get pulled over.
Just a few of my thoughts.
Welfare. It was 100% created to keep those less fortunate to depend on the gov. Then you had the crime bill of 1994 that took black fathers out of the homes and gave way to 100s of thousands of single-parent homes. We all know how that affects the welfare check.
I don't agree with BLM on most issues but I do think there is an ingrained, yet unconscious prejudice towards the black community. Especially within law enforcement.
They do get profiled more, asked to exit their car more when pulled over, and are treated in a different manner than other races. That goes for cops of all races. Not all cops though.
So for an example picture a black man, no outstanding warrants, no criminal history, but he's driving a beat-up Pontiac Grand Am.
Like I said before that could be based on a previous stop, profile fitting an open warrant, car matching a certain make/model, but we have to remember a few things. Something we on the right always argue.
Innocent until proven guilty. It seems some of these frequent stops are more guilty until proven innocent. These stops can lead to a mental change in behavior as well. Less likely to trust the police, be less cooperative in the future, teach their children the same, they take what they watch on youtube and in the movies and misquote or understand the laws (Miranda rights is a perfect example). In addition to these mental changes, you can see some physical. Most caused by fear. Fear in many cases they shouldn't have. It is ingrained, however. Fear can cause a semblance of nervousness or be anxious. Cops can misread this as intent and give a reason to question the individual beyond "License and proof of insurance."
Now, all that can be the case, but some of the black community in return don't give the police much help. I remember there is only one unsolved murder in the history of the town I grew up in. He was the first black alderman and owned a grocery/convent store. He was one night murdered for what they think was drug money. He was an outstanding member of society and gladly would have given whatever the perp asked for. To this day the community behind the store talk about it and we know they know who did it, but they refuse to talk to the police and help them solve the murder.
That has to change and it's gonna take police like the one that played basketball with the kids that Shaq later joined, more outreach, and building additional trust. Part of that can happen in the community but another part could happen when they get pulled over.
Just a few of my thoughts.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:03 pm to memphisplaya
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I don't agree with BLM on most issues but I do think there is an ingrained, yet unconscious prejudice towards the black community. Especially within law enforcement.
They do get profiled more, asked to exit their car more when pulled over, and are treated in a different manner than other races. That goes for cops of all races. Not all cops though.
I'd argue they also behave differently in general than white people do in a traffic stop.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I'd argue they also behave differently in general than white people do in a traffic stop.
Part of that can be contributed to what they've seen, heard, and been taught.
I used Miranda Rights as an example because so many think they have to be read their rights before being arrested. You only get read your rights if you are being questioned in a criminal investigation. There are plenty of other examples. All from the mistrust of police that has infected the community.
Thanks to misleading youtube videos, Hollywood, and rumors it affects more than just the black community. It does lead to some entertaining body cam footage.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:11 pm to memphisplaya
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Part of that can be contributed to what they've seen, heard, and been taught.
This goes back to the black community being its own worse enemy.
I've heard people say that police are gunning black men down in the street daily. Thats false. I hear that its a widespread issue. Thats false. I hear the black men are scared of police. Judging from the interactions I see, I have no idea how that could possibly be true.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:14 pm to mightyjet
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in all seriousness, you don't know for real?
I don't know
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:17 pm to LSURep864
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Here is a YouTube video of a black pastor explaining what it is, it’s marxist origins, and why he rejects it.
Fantastic video. Man I wish my church was like that I would go more often.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:22 pm to ApexTiger
Happens all the time....It is when a black kid is told he Does not qualify for a Certain scholarship Or is not accepted into a university with the same grades as a white kid....only because he is black
Did I say that right?
Did I say that right?
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:27 pm to memphisplaya
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I don't agree with BLM on most issues but I do think there is an ingrained, yet unconscious prejudice towards the black community. Especially within law enforcement.
They do get profiled more, asked to exit their car more when pulled over, and are treated in a different manner than other races. That goes for cops of all races. Not all cops though.
I have mixed opinions on this...
I'd have to see the Data, but it's certainly believable...this happens because there are more cases in concentrated areas
The percentage of crimes committed in fatherless communities should be of no surprise to anyone...
Turn on the TV this past week and it's that community...
so yeah, profiling will continue...
Blacks may not trust police and I would imagine police don't go into situations assuming the best...fear goes both ways...we're just flesh and blood...
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:29 pm to honeybadger07
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Happens all the time....It is when a black kid is told he Does not qualify for a Certain scholarship Or is not accepted into a university with the same grades as a white kid....only because he is black
Did I say that right?
Literally, no, the white kid doesn't go to university in that scenario...
Government has made it unlawful to not have a certain percentage of minorities on college campus
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