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re: Iowa pastors denounce ‘God Made Trump’ video
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:58 am to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:58 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Literally nothing in it is offensive
Nothing bad has ever come from godless men claiming a mandate from God.
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:03 am to rmnldr
Worshipping people is stupid to begin with, so the video is a little off-putting.
Which is likely the goal. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the video was put out by the left to serve as chaff.
Y'all know they do a ton of that, right? THEY make memes critical of their positions, but they make them in such a way that while true, they are a little hard to take seriously. Then whenever information comes out that's hard-hitting and accurate, they can play it off as "just another XYZ."
Example: THEY probably push the "COVID vaccines alter your DNA" stuff so that when people say "hey, I'm not willing to blindly accept a vaccine that's being forced on me for no reason and would like more information on it so I can make the best decision for myself", they can immediately discredit you as "just another one of those anti-vaxx loons."
Which is likely the goal. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the video was put out by the left to serve as chaff.
Y'all know they do a ton of that, right? THEY make memes critical of their positions, but they make them in such a way that while true, they are a little hard to take seriously. Then whenever information comes out that's hard-hitting and accurate, they can play it off as "just another XYZ."
Example: THEY probably push the "COVID vaccines alter your DNA" stuff so that when people say "hey, I'm not willing to blindly accept a vaccine that's being forced on me for no reason and would like more information on it so I can make the best decision for myself", they can immediately discredit you as "just another one of those anti-vaxx loons."
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:09 am to dgnx6
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Didn’t god make all of us or am I missing something
Trump and a lot of the maga types would do well to remember this.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:11 am to rmnldr
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by rmnldr
Honk honk
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:15 am to Longhorn Actual
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if the video was put out by the left to serve as chaff.
It wasn’t. It was made by Trump grifter Brenden Dilley’s team
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:23 am to dgnx6
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It’s like, frick off with your fake victimhood.
The reason the country is lost is because grown men talk like this. You sound like a pussy.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:24 am to Pecker
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If you believe in God then you have to believe that God uses imperfect people to do His work, but I've never liked the idea of casting Trump as a Messiah figure or crusader for Christ. I think Trump and his people use that when it's convenient.
People don't realize God puts the people in power that he wants.
Yes Joe Biden is the president of the United States because God allowed it for his greater plan. This whole woke agenda is happening with God's approval.
My God is the God of everything and He and He alone controls the universe.
The amount of people who have found their way back to God because of the times we are living in is beautiful and all Gods plan.
Trump is not a Messiah because the Messiah has come and will come again to judge the living and the dead. Those that treat him as such are lost. If he sees himself as that he is lost. But we really have no idea what God's plan is for Trump or anyone for that matter.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:28 am to rmnldr
Weird how pastors haven’t said crap as their churches continue to get undermined, but they have time to speak about this. I don’t take anything they say seriously
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:29 am to Snipe
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People don't realize God puts the people in power that he wants.
Yes Joe Biden is the president of the United States because God allowed it for his greater plan. This whole woke agenda is happening with God's approval.
My God is the God of everything and He and He alone controls the universe.
The amount of people who have found their way back to God because of the times we are living in is beautiful and all Gods plan.
Trump is not a Messiah because the Messiah has come and will come again to judge the living and the dead. Those that treat him as such are lost. If he sees himself as that he is lost. But we really have no idea what God's plan is for Trump or anyone for that matter.
agree with all of this. if you call yourself a christian, we would be prudent to pray for Biden, just like you would a leader you agreed with.
Trump is not some great savior. he is deeply flawed, and i might say even more deeply flawed than Biden in many regards. I'm more likely to believe Biden is a repentant sinner than Trump would ever be.
i'll still most likely vote for Trump, because his policies make sense and are rooted in reality, not fantasy.
Trump would do better with a lot of people if he distanced himself from these sort of videos and this sort of language. His arrogance in and of itself is fine. It's sin, but no more sinful than several of Biden's actions. He could get a lot more evangelicals to jump on his wagon if he'd root this sort of thing out.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:31 am to rmnldr
So it's over? Trump's done?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:36 am to dgnx6
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It’s like, frick off with your fake victimhood.
Irony much?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:39 am to Snipe
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People don't realize God puts the people in power that he wants.
Yes Joe Biden is the president of the United States because God allowed it for his greater plan. This whole woke agenda is happening with God's approval.
No it’s not and this isn’t doctrinally sound. We have free will to act as evil as we want. God hates sun and sinner alike and will punish by Holy Hatred. God does not approve the sinful nature of the spirit of the age.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:46 am to rmnldr
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We have free will to act as evil as we want.
Of course we do but this has nothing to do with what I posted.
Gods will, will be done. Unless you believe that man's freewill can override God's will od somehow alter his plan.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:51 am to Snipe
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Gods will, will be done. Unless you believe that man's freewill can override God's will od somehow alter his plan.
Yes, His will, will be done. God is omniscient past, present, and future. He knows what actions we’ll take. My point of contention is that it’s not to His approval
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:52 am to rmnldr
God does not “hate” a person who has sinned. I have no idea what is meant by “holy hate”. That seems like an oxymoron, unless you worship a different god.
And Trump has embraced the messianic
persona when it suits him. It’s sickening.
And Trump has embraced the messianic
persona when it suits him. It’s sickening.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:54 am to VOR
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God does not “hate” a person who has sinned.
Yes He does. God hates sinner and sin alike.
It’s a form of hatred that man cannot understand because God has a Holy understanding and a Holy hatred of sin.
God however can forgive and love unlike any man. It’s not wise to apply human emotion and logic to the omniscient creator of the universe.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:54 am to Pecker
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If you believe in God then you have to believe that God uses imperfect people to do His work, but I've never liked the idea of casting Trump as a Messiah figure or crusader for Christ. I think Trump and his people use that when it's convenient.
He’s not the messiah ffs. He did save America from having a very left wing Supreme Court and coincidentally saving America from losing a bunch of its freedoms due to said Supreme Court. He also did a damn good job as president.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:57 am to VOR
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And Trump has embraced the messianic persona when it suits him. It’s sickening.
But I bet you LOOOVVVVEEEEDDDDD Obama whenever he embraced his messianic persona. fricking Hypocrite.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:01 am to rmnldr
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It was made by Trump grifter Brenden Dilley’s team
If you get mad about a group who trolls leftists online then that’s a you problem.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:02 am to dgnx6
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Like for me I’d say it’s silly because god doesn’t exist.
I always get a good chuckle out of this, and a sadness not far behind. Albeit there was a time in my life when I believed there was no God, or at least doubted - out of ignorance - said Existence.
ENERGY, the formative basis for the Universal Reality of the which 'We' perceive...IS/can be, Self-Aware. I.e, a Spiritual Entity/Self, and we are absolute proof of this miraculous phenomenon. The relative and innate power of a self-aware Entity is directly related to the complexity or 'mass' of its manifest 'form'. We are Energy, albeit in a very limited capacity as related to the capacity of the Whole Reservoir or Energy.
Quantum Physics proves that there is a form of 'unity' in the Energy Reservoir that defies the Empirical Laws of said Reality/Universe. There is some form of 'unity' beneath the surface illusion of the which we perceive and attempt to discover, and it is highly likely that absolute and unqualified, intellectual and self-aware unlimited (Knowledge) unity - is what we deem as 'God'. The "I Am". It is the immutable Source for all that is or can be. And that Self Aware Energy, is loving, if one accept the Biblical description of said Energy/God. In fact, Christianity asserts that "God IS Love", and that is the whole Gospel of God's Son, Jesus Christ, designated Savior/Shepherd of Humanity. (subjective opinion noted; one chooses their ultimate Reality).
Self-Aware and loving Energy is the basis and 'gift' of life for our own self-aware entity existence, if one chooses to validate the Biblical Narrative; and it is ours to do and shape as we will, according to the values we embrace and love. No (subjective) belief in God equals no hope of a future, and personally, I have waaayyy too much of value to lose to settle for that dead end belief.
Therein, the only worthy task of a human entity who truly loves life, is to know the Truth and avert non-existence. "Being saved" as it were. Of course, unless one has nothing worth losing, then non-existence would not matter. Like J. Joplin sang..."freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose".
I hope you find Truth, dg. And the monumental vision and beautiful and eternal blessings therein.
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