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Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:53 am to NC_Tigah
We need to divide things into certificates and degrees.
Your upper echelon students will likely drift to the degrees (and get the scholarships, etc.) and then those using college only for an economic certification will pay the same per year but can finish in less time while not having to test in.
Your upper echelon students will likely drift to the degrees (and get the scholarships, etc.) and then those using college only for an economic certification will pay the same per year but can finish in less time while not having to test in.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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economic certification
What would an economic certificate be?
I'm not familiar with that term.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:06 am to NC_Tigah
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Institutions should be held accountable for student outcomes: Are our graduates getting jobs, pursuing meaningful work, and contributing to their communities?
It would awesome, albeit maybe a touch unrealistic, if institutions had to have ROI data on their degrees.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:09 am to Narax
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What would an economic certificate be?
I'm not familiar with that term.
It's my term/concept.
Basically the "trade school" part of a degree. Strip out the "education" stuff outside of the trade being studied.
So like, an engineering degree. You strip away all the non-essential requirements for what would be a degree. So math, physics, engineering, etc. only. No English, foreign language, humanities, etc.
It's a terminal certification, too.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 7:10 am
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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We need to divide things into certificates and degrees.
Your upper echelon students will likely drift to the degrees
So kids taking easier majors to boost their GPA for law school get the certificate right?
We can save the actual degrees from engineers and science majors.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:12 am to NC_Tigah
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Institutions should be held accountable for student outcomes
Just make the school have some skin in the game for the repayment of a student loan.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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You strip away all the non-essential requirements for what would be a degree. So math, physics, engineering, etc. only. No English, foreign language, humanities, etc.
So take away the super easy core classes and then insult them by calling it a certificate.
You are a clown
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:13 am to texag7
You’re arguing against a good idea just because it’s SFP. Or perhaps because you’re dumb.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:13 am to Demonbengal
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I’ve reached the point where I’m highly concerned about my daughter marrying a guy with a mountain of student loan debt. I’d be somewhat relieved if she ends up with a guy doing a blue collar trade.
Nothing wrong with student loan debt if the return is worth it.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:14 am to the808bass
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Or perhaps because you’re dumb.
Yeah we can let people take easier classes to get a “degree”. Then we’ll call the paper of people who take harder classes a “certificate”.
And I’m the dumb one
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:16 am to NC_Tigah
Depends.
Is it STEM related?
Are you planning on going beyond a bachelor's?
Do you want to teach?
Are you getting the degree because the subject interests you, but you really don't need it for what you want to do career-wise?
If none of those, the value is suspect realtive to career advancement.
Is it STEM related?
Are you planning on going beyond a bachelor's?
Do you want to teach?
Are you getting the degree because the subject interests you, but you really don't need it for what you want to do career-wise?
If none of those, the value is suspect realtive to career advancement.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:19 am to texag7
Your response seems to indicate that you are, indeed, dumb.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:19 am to the808bass
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Just make the school have some skin in the game for the repayment of a student loan.
Bingo. Would make a huge difference.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:21 am to the808bass
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Your response seems to indicate that you are, indeed, dumb.
My high school was harder than your college.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:23 am to texag7
I’m sure your finger-painting courses were challenging.
You’re flinging poo and thinking you’re being thoughtful.
You’re flinging poo and thinking you’re being thoughtful.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:24 am to onmymedicalgrind
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It would awesome, albeit maybe a touch unrealistic, if institutions had to have ROI data on their degrees.
Its out there.
https://freopp.org/whitepapers/does-college-pay-off-a-comprehensive-return-on-investment-analysis/
The US Government publishes all the raw data.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:26 am to the808bass
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You’re arguing against a good idea just because it’s SFP. Or perhaps because you’re dumb.
Tough call. But I’m leaning towards his being dumb as the main driver here.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:28 am to onmymedicalgrind
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But I’m leaning towards his being dumb as the main driver here.
You had to go to Caribbean med school.
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