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Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10933 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:57 pm to
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I even underlined the subject of the sentence for you. It's not Kirk, and it's not the murderer. He's talking about Trump SUPPORTERS.

I didn’t say he was talking about Kirk. He is talking about Trump supporters characterizing the murders as anything but one of them and implying that characterization is ridiculous because he believes (or more accurately wants people to believe) that the murder is in fact MAGA). Otherwise, he wouldn’t have phrased it as “trying to characterize”. He would have just said that they were trying to use the fact of the murderer not being MAGA to score political points.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:58 pm to
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This is a dishonest reading of the quote.

You're doing exactly what Kimmel is accusing you of doing.

Read the quote. Diagram the sentence. Find the subject. It's clear who he's talking about - and it's people like YOU.
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I'm not going to debate

No, you're not. You're just going to freak the frick out over a characterization of your actions that you don't think reflects positively on you.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
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I didn’t say he was talking about Kirk. He is talking about Trump supporters characterizing the murders as anything but one of them

That wasn't so hard, was it?
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11328 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:04 pm to
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benign statement of fact.




That's the point, you fricking retard. He lied. The kid was NOT MAGA and everyone already knew that. His own family had publicly said he had been radicalized over the last year with leftist ideology. He lived with and was dating a fricking trans furry. He was transtifa, through and through and part of a discord group with them.

JFC... The only ones "desperately" trying to spin this to "score political points," is Kimmel and all you leftist TDS f@ggots. Eat shite and choke on it.
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2466 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:11 pm to
CK’s death & subsequent corporate actions have clearly identified decent vs evil souls.

Kimmel is the poster boy for what’s wrong with this country.
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2350 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:17 pm to
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but not necessarily a lie, per se, if the facts werent out yet.


Think before you type…
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1896 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:24 pm to
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I read FAR worse shite written on this board about the other half every day.
Irrelevant to the discussion. The posters on this board don't have a TV/radio/other-media show. If they did, and said equivalent terrible things on their opening monologue, they'd be facing the same treatment (or worse), I'm sure. Geez, didn't a food show host (Paula Dean) get 'cancelled' for allegedly using the N-word a decade before?

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Half the voters =/= half the viewers. Besides which, why would a bunch of Trump supporters be watching Jimmy Kimmel in the first place?
Again, irrelevant. They likely represent ~ half of the population in the network's broadcast area. Potential customers. Even if they don't watch Kimmel, they may not like supporting a business that supports what he said.

Using your 'logic', any right-leaning TV host should be able to use the N-word all over the place. After all, no self-respecting POC would watch a right-wing TV show, right? So no one will be offended, no customers in that viewing area will be lost over such a transgression, right? Just let it go?
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No way that all, or even a majority of, Trump supporters are using this for political points.
This board provides evidence to the contrary.
No it doesn't. Prove to me that a few comments like that from right-leaning posters represent the majority of right-leaning posters here. You can't. You just want to believe it.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:36 pm to
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That's the point, you fricking retard. He lied. The kid was NOT MAGA and everyone already knew that.

In the quote, Kimmel doesn't actually say he was. So you're lying by saying Kimmel lied.
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That's what Kimmel was talking about.

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The only ones "desperately" trying to spin this to "score political points," is Kimmel and all you

I'm not spinning anything, I'm not defending anyone, I initially was just trying to figure out why you tards were accusing Kimmel of lying about Kirk when I couldn't find that he did. And it turns out he didn't. He was just talking about y'all.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10933 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:38 pm to
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That wasn't so hard, was it?

Nice job ignoring the part about you being wrong that Kimmel was not saying that the murderer was MAGA.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2275 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Then you have politicians trying to lay the blame on a large portion of the population when one person did it.


One person did it, but thousands on the left cheered it, many saying there need to be more deaths.

Quit pretending this is a both sides issue.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8335 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Think before you type…

why? it's a legitimate question. if he said something that he knew to be false when he said it, then it's a lie. if he said it before the facts were out, it's not a lie, it's just a wild speculation. i'm no fan of Kimmel and i think what he said was absolutely ridiculous and he deserves the shitstorm he is getting, but words mean things.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1584 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:43 pm to
INteresting, because Kimmel losing his show was because the right isn't just standing by anymore. Oh, and Disney using the opportunity to unload a low rated show host.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8335 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:44 pm to
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In the quote, Kimmel doesn't actually say he was.

bull fricking shite
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:47 pm to
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said equivalent terrible things

I just don't think that most of the country thinks it's such a "terrible thing" to accuse Trump supporters of desperately trying to distance themselves and their ideology from the murderer.
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get 'cancelled' for allegedly using the N-word

False equivalence.
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They likely represent ~ half of the population in the network's broadcast area.

I doubt it.
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Using your 'logic', any right-leaning TV host should be able to use the N-word all over the place.

You keep trying to make "MAGA gang" equivalent to "N*****". It's not going to work.

For the record, I thought it was a travesty when they fired Cosell for saying, "that little monkey gets loose doesn't he?" back in '83.
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No it doesn't. Prove to me that a few comments like that from right-leaning posters represent the majority of right-leaning posters here.

Yes, it does. I'm not talking about "right-leaning posters", I'm talking about the Magatards. They're "Populist Nationalists", remember? Not the traditional American right wing of limited government and fiscal responsibility
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You just want to believe it.

Now you sound like Kimmel.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18948 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:48 pm to
frick them all.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:51 pm to
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KingofthePoint

You missed it.
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you being wrong that Kimmel was not saying that the murderer was MAGA.

What was the subject of the sentence Kimmel uttered?

I don't really care if the murderer was MAGA or not, but I'm not going to take the word from a bunch of people who think that the mob wasn't actually trespassing when they entered the Capitol on January 6.

The murderer may or may not have voted for Trump. I don't have any evidence one way or another, and I don't really care.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:54 pm to
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[bs]


Kimmel said, "The MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

I've underlined the subject and the subjective pronouns. None of which refer to Kirk or the killer.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
8352 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Jason Bateman believes that ABC's dramatic suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Live! will ignite a movement of retaliation as he declared 'you just can't stand by.'

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14660 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Well, Jimmy getting his show pulled for freedom of speech,' Bateman returned.
How hard is it to understand that "freedom of speech" only protects you from criminal prosecution? I have the freedom to say any racial epithet that I can think of, without fear of being arrested outside of causing a public disturbance, but I imagine if enough people were aware of my actions, I would not only lose my job, I would be unemployable.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
48074 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 2:17 pm to
He's one more phony who clings to the hive mentality that permeates his little Hollywood Bubble.

His sister doesn't play that game, though. Good for her.
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