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re: Judge Blocks Trump Santuary city order
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:06 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:06 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Hence the reason I deleted another comment on page two. Realized who the OP was and reread the article. This OP does this shite all the damn time. I've called her out prior, but fell for it again. My fault.
The court will rule on a preliminary injunction soon. But the court did make a decision based on the merits. Read the order.
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:06 pm to Sentrius
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Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration and lets see that put to the test here.
The problem is that many of their donors like the current situation. Republicans have this problem in that they love performing bj's for big business.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:06 pm to CommoDawg
quote:Not remotely.
But the court did make a decision based on the merits.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:07 pm to Loserman
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There isn't a fricking thing the courts can do to a President or Congress
Then stop whining and just do it. I'm sure the President knows this.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:08 pm to NC_Tigah
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Not remotely.
TROs require a likelihood of success on the merits and that is what the judge ruled on.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:09 pm to Iosh
That's between Trump and the senate GOP. As many times as the senate GOPer blame the Dems it they who are against wall funding (just as much as the Dems).
The potential shut down is between the White House and GOP Senate. With Trump only asking for $1.4 billion the senate can certainly make the CR revenue neutral to pass with a simple majority (which requires no Democrats).
The potential shut down is between the White House and GOP Senate. With Trump only asking for $1.4 billion the senate can certainly make the CR revenue neutral to pass with a simple majority (which requires no Democrats).
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:09 pm to NC_Tigah
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"You"? These are anti-constitutionalist judges. Of course they are going to "block" Constitutional actions. That in no way makes the actions correct or desirable. SCOTUS needs to rein this BS in.
Doesn't matter. The courts don't matter. They only matter IF and ONLY IF they get a President and congress willing to go along with their decision.
As I posted earlier in this thread...
Brown vs Board of Education 1954 Supreme Court Decision "end segregation of schools" Found Segregation as unconstitutional.
NOTHING CHANGED until the 1965 Civil rights act passed by congress and enforced by Johnson.
Everyone thinks the Supreme Court decisions matter, but they don't, or at least not until a President and Congress is willing to enforce them.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:09 pm to tigerinDC09
I would love to see the faces of the judges when this thing and the travel ban go up to SCOTUS and SCOTUS upholds Trump's position and Alito shoves a red hot poker up the Ninth Circuit's collective arses
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:10 pm to LSUcjb318
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Then stop whining and just do it. I'm sure the President knows this.
Trump? Doubtful!!!
Members of his staff probably!
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:11 pm to tigerinDC09
It's as if Trump's crew doesn't even try to follow the law. But then again, Trump's business experience has been solely in privately held companies, which can be legally run like dictatorships.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:11 pm to CommoDawg
quote:The merits require Constitutional basis. That is the basis the judge ignored. This crap needs to get marched right up the judiciary, and the activist SOB issuing the ruling needs to get slapped down when it does.
TRO's require a likelihood of success on the merits and that is what the judge ruled on.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:12 pm to CptBengal
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The entire judicial system is a creation of the executive.
Disband the court.
I see noted legal expert CptBengal has now weighed in.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:12 pm to Iosh
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I haven't read the decision, the executive order, or any of the legislative text, so I can't tell you whether the judge's interpretation is reasonable or unreasonable.
Then why in the frick are you nutz deep in this thread?
I'm sure it's just the pleats in the pants but your Trump hard on is showing.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:13 pm to CommoDawg
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The court will rule on a preliminary injunction soon. But the court did make a decision based on the merits. Read the order.
God you are so ignorant it hurts to read your shite.
Not even close. I mean, not even in the same damn galaxy.
Don't reply unless you know what you are talking about.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:13 pm to Loserman
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Doesn't matter. The courts don't matter. They only matter IF and ONLY IF they get a President and congress willing to go along with their decision. As I posted earlier in this thread... Brown vs Board of Education 1954 Supreme Court Decision "end segregation of schools" Found Segregation as unconstitutional. NOTHING CHANGED until the 1965 Civil rights act passed by congress and enforced by Johnson. Everyone thinks the Supreme Court decisions matter, but they don't, or at least not until a President and Congress is willing to enforce them.
If the government defies this order, the judge could hold the government official responsible for defying the order, in contempt
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:15 pm to NIH
No. The executive branch doesn't have the power of the purse, the Legislature does. Congress could cut funding, just like Congress cut highway funding for states who refused to raise their drinking age to 21.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:15 pm to KiwiHead
quote:The Edward II treatment
I would love to see the faces of the judges when this thing and the travel ban go up to SCOTUS and SCOTUS upholds Trump's position and Alito shoves a red hot poker up the Ninth Circuit's collective arses
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:16 pm to Loserman
Oh look another idiot with the trump doesn't know details meme when every time he speaks on a subject he knows 3 times the detail Obama ever did
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:16 pm to CommoDawg
And that person would immediately be pardoned.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:16 pm to CorporateTiger
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However Courtd have the power to determine the constitutionality of another branch's actions. The argument here is that the Executive is overstepping their authority by imposing conditions on the funding. The correct source of those conditions would be Legislative.
You seem to miss the entire point. The courts can rule however they want, but they can't enforce or fund anything.
They can, will, and have been historically ignored, until a new President/Congress that actually agrees with their decision comes to power who will fund/enforce their decision.
Scotus and the lower courts have no power.
While it is true that States can also ignore federal edicts, but the Feds have the Big Guns(and I do mean GUNS) and if they wish to run roughshod over the states they can. (Personally I don't like this, but it is what it is, and has been since the civil war)
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