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re: Letter from FDA to physicians on acetaminophen use
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:28 pm to TigerDoc
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:28 pm to TigerDoc
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I actually have no idea on these specifics, but whatever the correct answer is would make a helluva boring press conference.
Yeah, probably so... unless, of course, we got a certain somebody to come out swinging first (after teaching him how to pronounce it)
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:32 pm to AC1221
quote:Pretty much. He's been melting since the press conference.
So, you're saying that the Dean of the Harvard School of Public health is wrong, and you're right?
He thinks he's important and people know or care who he is on an online fricking forum. Yes, he and he alone has the answer to problem. What's that? Well, no he hasn't articulated any actual solutions, but trust him bro.
Government accountability, transparency, real time updates on progress, better science, massive task forces and public money to combat a massive problem?
No, not good enough for a TDS lunatic, only bitching and moaning. Dealing with these retards is like dealing with my toddlers.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:33 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So you're ignoring the evidence that suggests a link just because they haven't found the causal link yet. Got it.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:37 pm to Barstools
It's a little subtle, but not publicizing/hyping an ambiguous association (the studies are mixed) is a reasonable public health strategy because the available alternatives are known to be less safe.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:40 pm to mudshuvl05
It seems like has Fauci Syndrome. HE IS THE SCIENCE, AND THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED.
Scientific method, and the 27 studies that found a link be damned.
Scientific method, and the 27 studies that found a link be damned.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:41 pm to Harry Boutte
Oh Harry. How many people here do you actually want to share their opinions?
You leftists can be so obtuse with your need for constant whataboutisms.
You leftists can be so obtuse with your need for constant whataboutisms.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:46 pm to TigerDoc
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It's a little subtle, but not publicizing/hyping an ambiguous association (the studies are mixed) is a reasonable public health strategy because the available alternatives are known to be less safe.
Here's where my opinion differs and I consider this take to be gatekeeping... guarding or couching information because there are no better alternatives is wrong, imo.
An alternative to some things would be to try stretching, massage, hot or cold compresses, resting or even just toughing it out.
Does that work for a high or prolonged fever? No... but pregnant women having a high or prolonged fever need medical attention anyway to rule out underlying causes of concern.
Does it work for acute or prolonged pain? No... but again, at that point the woman needs to see her doctor anyway for the same reason I cited above.
Off topic- but in SC brain eating amoebas aren't "discussed" by our health department because "can't really do anything about it anyway".
But there IS- people make better decisions with better information, like avoiding certain water, wearing noseclips and avoiding submerging their heads.
Seriously, a 12yr old boy died this summer over something somewhat preventable and wholly avoidable because our friggin health department refuses to educate or notify the public because the health department can't "fix it" or "treat it" themselves. That's gatekeeping and it costs lives.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:48 pm to LSUTANGERINE
You are an ignorant fool and don’t have the slightest clue what you are talking about
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:49 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:I’ll take this one.
Hey tangerine, ask any of these people who are convinced their is correlation (yet alone causation) why they choose to believe the studies that show one thing and not the others that show the opposite and you will be deafened by the silence.
To establish a correlation you need solid evidence with studies that yield similar results. In this case we do not have that, which is why studies which don’t show a correlation (if the methodology is solid) introduce errors into the conclusions.
In the ones I viewed over half showed a correlation. That is not sufficient for a conclusion. It is sufficient for a warning, which what should have been presented by the medical professionals.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:49 pm to SallysHuman
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guarding or couching information because there are no better alternatives is wrong, imo.
Do you consider every study not published on WhiteHouse.gov to be "gatekept" ?
quote:
but in SC brain eating amoebas aren't "discussed" by our health department because "can't really do anything about it anyway".
Do you want a warning on hoses that tell people not to snort water? What kind of discussion would you like to see had in SC about brain eating amoebas?
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:52 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you consider every study not published on WhiteHouse.gov to be "gatekept" ?
Do you want to discuss anything I actually had to say or just come in for drive by snipes that you'll just ignore any answer to?
Do you deny there is gatekeeping in the medical field?
A poster above already admitted this is so- usually due to lack of answers or alternatives and out of caution to not alarm people or put them off viable treatments altogether.
Are you refuting him?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:55 pm to SallysHuman
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Do you want to discuss anything I actually had to say or just come in for drive by snipes that you'll just ignore any answer to?
I am challenging your claims that information is "gatekept" because you never cared to research it until Donald Trump went on TV to discuss it.
I responded to your dismay at SC for not discussing brain-eating amoebas. What do you want them to discuss? Would you like the President to go on TV and tell people not to snort water during the summer in warm climates?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:55 pm to 4cubbies
You have zero medical knowledge or experience but since you are childlike in your naivety I will educate you. Why is Tylenol so hard on the liver unlike other pain relievers like opiates or Ibuprofen? You can ignore everything and everyone on the planet that contradicts your preconceived notions but your body doesn’t lie
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:56 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Do you want a warning on hoses that tell people not to snort water? What kind of discussion would you like to see had in SC about brain eating amoebas?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:57 pm to Vacherie Saint
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This is the pivot. The reflex was that Trump must be a liar, and all of the demons in the media followed suit. But when studies from Harvard and others started popping up on social media, and folks began to realize that Tylenol already issues a warning for pregnant and nursing women on the bottle, they pivoted to pissing on the way Trump delivered the press conference. Never mind half the media is on a crusade right now to get make pregnant woman think acetaminophen is of zero risk - which does a ton more harm than anything Trump said.
It’s so goddamned stupid.
Yeah, but OMB so what’s sacrificing a few babies to make that point?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:58 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Did you get a Triple dose of TDS?
LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:59 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Do yourself a favor, Twink.
Go grab a bottle of Tylenol and read the “warning” section. Get back to us.
Go grab a bottle of Tylenol and read the “warning” section. Get back to us.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:59 pm to roadGator
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You leftists can be so obtuse with your need for constant whataboutisms.
And you fascists can't help but to try to silence people.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:59 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
but in SC brain eating amoebas aren't "discussed" by our health department because "can't really do anything about it anyway". Do you want a warning on hoses that tell people not to snort water? What kind of discussion would you like to see had in SC about brain eating amoebas?
Well, you heartless arse, the parents of the 12yr old that died certainly want more public education on the issue- in other states it IS reportsble and discussed.
Here is a link to yesterday's News Story on WIS about it.
quote:
Family fights for change following son’s death from brain-eating amoeba infection
By Judi Gatson and Marley Bassett
Published: Sep. 23, 2025 at 8:06 PM EDT
Updated: 19 hours ago
Following their 12-year-old son’s death from a rare brain-eating amoeba infection, a family is now fighting for legislation and increased awareness about this.
quote:
The Carrs understand that it is common to find the amoeba, Naegleria Fowleri, in warm freshwater areas across the country.
What they don’t understand, however, is why South Carolina does not issue public advisories about this amoeba, like other states, such as Louisiana.
“We had none of that. And it’s not fair for another parent to have to go through this, all from not having a simple warning of what’s out there, what could possibly happen, and to just make wise decisions. That’s all we’re asking,” they said.
While experts say infection is rare, the Carrs wonder if those statistics are accurate since these cases are not required to be officially tracked.
“Well, how do we know if that number is correct when it’s not mandated that it’s a reportable incident? How do we really know that it’s only 10 cases? It’s very misleading,” Clarence said. The Carr family is calling on state lawmakers and health officials to do more to educate the public about this issue.
Louisiana handles it- South Carolina acts like it doesn't exist. That's a problem.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:02 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I am challenging your claims that information is "gatekept" because you never cared to research it until Donald Trump went on TV to discuss it.
Answered.
quote:
I responded to your dismay at SC for not discussing brain-eating amoebas. What do you want them to discuss? Would you like the President to go on TV and tell people not to snort water during the summer in warm climates?
South Carolina is lacking in this- it is a fact. I posted above, you should read the linked article.
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