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re: Letter from FDA to physicians on acetaminophen use
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:02 pm to Harry Boutte
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:02 pm to Harry Boutte
You goofballs can’t even define fascism or have the first clue where it originated. I will give you a hint it wasn’t Hitler and he was an ex journalist
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:05 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Except that the correlation disappeared when confounding variables were controlled and they were sibling controls. That is the conflicting research that they magically left out yesterday.
The information is coming from a meta-analysis performed by Harvard. 4 studies found positive effects of acetaminophen in pregnant women. 9 found no relation. 26 found a negative effect. My numbers may be slightly off but are representative.
So, twice as many studies found a negative effect vs positive/neutral effect. The warning is what a responsible health organization does when they find more evidence of harm than good.
As Harvard performed a meta-analysis, quoting 1 or 2 studies that contradict the warning is irrelevant compared to the totality of the studies.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:06 pm to SallysHuman
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Well, you heartless arse, the parents of the 12yr old that died certainly want more public education on the issue- in other states it IS reportsble and discussed.
I'm heartless because I don't think it's the government's job to educate everyone about every possible risk of living? OK...
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Louisiana handles it- South Carolina acts like it doesn't exist. That's a problem.
I had no idea Louisiana "handles" this. I read an article about this in the newspaper when I was a kid, which is how I know these things exist and how they enter the human brain. At some point, people are responsible for their own ignorance. Relying on the government for all warnings and edvice is an effective way to stay ignorant.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:07 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Gatekeeping is an important function.
Regular people don't know what they don't know and the health field is NOTORIOUS for gatekeeping.
Dr. Andrea Baccarelli, dean of the faculty at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and professor of environmental health, was senior author of the study concerning a link between Acetaminophen and ASD/ADHD referenced by Trump yesterday.
Baccarelli was also the Plaintiffs' lead expert.of a class action filed in the Southern District of New York: In re Acetaminophen – ASD-ADHD Products Liability Litigation. It seems likely that Baccarelli received a large fee to be Plaintiffs' lead expert. It seems equally likely that Baccarelli would have received many multiples of that fee if the lawsuit would have proceeded forward and potentially multiplied.
Baccarelli's opinions were excluded by the court because they were unreliable:
quote:The Court also noted that Baccarelli had not authored a study to support his opinions; to the contrary, his last study contradicted his proffered expert opinion:
Defendants argue that Dr. Baccarelli’s opinions are unreliable for several reasons. They contend that he improperly applied a “transdiagnostic” approach to neurodevelopmental disorders that elides meaningful differences between ADHD and ASD. They contend as well that he did not conduct a reliable Bradford Hill or Navigation Guide analysis for several reasons including that he cherry-picked and misrepresented study results and refused to acknowledge the role of genetics in the etiology of either ASD or ADHD. They are correct.
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Plaintiffs have failed to carry their burden to show that Dr. Baccarelli’s analysis of this Bradford Hill factor is reliable. To begin with, it is cursory. It fails to engage meaningfully with the inconsistencies among the studies, inconsistencies which exist to a remarkable degree. He fails to address meta-analyses and scientific literature which do not find consistency among the study results. His failure to engage seriously with the complexity of the relevant studies’ outcomes is well illustrated by his assertion regarding ASD.
It is difficult to understand where Dr. Baccarelli was looking when he found that the research regarding ASD was consistent and that there were three studies to support his conclusion.
quote:The Court's Opinion and Order paints Baccarelli in a very poor light. It's worth a read. Opinion and Order
Each of the plaintiffs’ experts is well qualified to render an opinion in the areas addressed by their reports. The defendants do not contend otherwise. None of the plaintiffs’ experts, however, has published research that expresses the ultimate opinions they offer here. Indeed, the plaintiffs’ lead expert on causation, Dr. Baccarelli, as recently as 2022, co-authored a study on the prenatal effects of acetaminophen that cautioned against any change in clinical practice.
Accordingly, it appears that if Baccarelli wanted to stay in the very lucrative field of litigation experts, he needed to publish a study linking Acetaminophen to ASD/ADHD.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:08 pm to AC1221
quote:Yep. Don't listen to that science, listen to retard tangerine's science and just keep doing the same thing we've been doing, I'm certain we'll finally see different, positive results.
HE IS THE SCIENCE, AND THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED.
Scientific method, and the 27 studies that found a link be damned.
Bitching, moaning, mutilating and assassinating - it's the only thing a 2025 democrat does well.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:08 pm to 4cubbies
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Relying on the government for all warnings and edvice is an effective way to stay ignorant.
When governments don't discuss it, don't collect data and don't report it- how the everlovinfrick is anyone supposed to reasonably know?
The information on this is regularly suppressed ON PURPOSE in SC.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:10 pm to Salviati
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Gatekeeping is an important function.
People are tired of information silos, gatekeeping and the like- and rightfully so.
quote:is not the only person to raise questions or concern on this.
Dr. Andrea Baccarelli
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:11 pm to Rip Torn
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You goofballs can’t even define fascism
And you idiots don't even know what leftists are.
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...or have the first clue where it originated. I will give you a hint it wasn’t Hitler
It was the guy who Trump emulates...
Looks just like him.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:11 pm to Harry Boutte
Silence?
I want you people screaming louder about who you are.
Weirdo.
I want you people screaming louder about who you are.
Weirdo.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:13 pm to LSUTANGERINE
What the frick is wrong with you dude another one with a non functioning brain some of you frickers are beyond helping
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:14 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Go grab a bottle of Tylenol and read the “warning” section. Get back to us.
Already been addressed by me. Go read through the thread and find it.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:16 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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acetaminophen by pregnant women may be associated with an increased risk of neurological conditions such as autism and ADHD in children.
So the two very things that are on a sharp rise.. interesting..
Where there is smoke there is....... You know the rest
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:17 pm to SallysHuman
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When governments don't discuss it, don't collect data and don't report it- how the everlovinfrick is anyone supposed to reasonably know?
Someone could try reading a newspaper like I did when I was a kid and learned about this.
This was published in August of 2016: CDC Confirms Brain Eating Amoeba in SC Resident
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:19 pm to 4cubbies
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Someone could try reading a newspaper like I did when I was a kid and learned about this.
That was a story AFTER it happened. There aren't any public education or seasonal information campaigns on this.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:20 pm to 4cubbies
That doesn’t work anymore.
They lie more than the politicians.
Case in point, the Obama era Reuters article noting the link scientists revealed between acetaminophen and autism, and the Reuters article from yesterday insisting it’s “not backed by science”.
2013
2025
They lie more than the politicians.
Case in point, the Obama era Reuters article noting the link scientists revealed between acetaminophen and autism, and the Reuters article from yesterday insisting it’s “not backed by science”.
2013
2025
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:25 pm to SallysHuman
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That was a story AFTER it happened. There aren't any public education or seasonal information campaigns on this.
You posted an article about a child dying this year and expressed outrage that the existence of these amoebas was kept hidden from the residents of SC.
I have to a assume that the parent of a 12 year old in 2025 was literate in 2016.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
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That doesn’t work anymore.
They lie more than the politicians.
Are you suggesting the AP and CDC lied about the child dying from a brain eating amoeba in 2016?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:29 pm to 4cubbies
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You posted an article about a child dying this year and expressed outrage that the existence of these amoebas was kept hidden from the residents of SC.
It is not tracked.
It is not reported.
The "rare" instances it makes our news channels is when the FAMILY gets in touch with the news station- then, and sometimes not even then, does the health department say something.
A news article after the fact is NOT the same as a seasonal public education campaign. They do it for the flu, they do it for other things, but they don't for the amoebas.
The family whose story I linked, is approaching lawmakers and the health department to make changes for better public information on this.
Which you probably think is stupid, I'm sure.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:30 pm to mudshuvl05
I wonder how much tylenol his mom took?
And, that's all any of them have left at this point.
Impotent contrarians
And, that's all any of them have left at this point.
Impotent contrarians
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:31 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I swear, Trump could praise water and some of you TDS-obsessed buffoons would start drinking motor oil.
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