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re: Liberty Safes is getting the Bud Light treatment big time
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:17 am to AyyyBaw
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:17 am to AyyyBaw
one you make, with a padlock, and well hidden,
even most padlocks have a master key, though
so nothing is actually secure, nothing
even most padlocks have a master key, though
so nothing is actually secure, nothing
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:20 am to The Maj
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Up to the point that Liberty provided the access code to the FBI...
Well, not really. Change the "master" code. Problem solved.
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I am not certain if an owner can easily change the access code to the safe...
Unless it's wildly different from the Steelwater I had, it's probably in the manual and on YouTube. It takes a couple minutes.
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This is why all mine are mechanical dials... Never trusted the digital crap...
Absolutely.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:22 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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No he did not. That's the whole point. Once Liberty gave the Gestapo the codes, he lost "complete control over who accessed that safe."
I think a lot of you are biting on some incorrect information in the OP. I've seen nothing to suggest that he couldn't change the "master" code on his safe.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:25 am to HubbaBubba
And that is how Liberty died.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:26 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Liberty is currently getting blasted on IG for this
"Did you guys really narc to the feds? There's no way you call yourselves liberty and then bend the knee to another corrupted three letter agency"
"Maybe you should change your name to tyranny"
"'Always protected' unless the feds ask us for your safe code"
"I will never buy your safe. Thanks for showing your true colors. Enjoy going bankrupt"
"Did you guys really narc to the feds? There's no way you call yourselves liberty and then bend the knee to another corrupted three letter agency"
"Maybe you should change your name to tyranny"
"'Always protected' unless the feds ask us for your safe code"
"I will never buy your safe. Thanks for showing your true colors. Enjoy going bankrupt"
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:27 am to HubbaBubba
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We regularly update our policies to ensure both compliance with federal and state law and reasonable consumer privacy protections within the law.
What they're not saying is they were required to install the backdoor code, just like everyone else.
"reasonable consumer privacy protections" - not what this is about.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:27 am to LSUbest
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What they're not saying is they were required to install the backdoor code, just like everyone else.
Do you have a link for that?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:37 am to DisplacedBuckeye
frick anyone that thinks this is ok.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:46 am to HubbaBubba
quote:What if you lose, forget or something else happens to your combination? I have a Liberty and am comfortable with their having a way to help me get in and reset things. I am not sure what their choices are in a warrant situation. Isn't a bank compelled to release bank records if presented a warrant?
Why would you want a safe that a manufacturer has made where the manufacturer keeps a backdoor code that violates your privacy? If the feds want in, make them earn it, even if it destroys the safe.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:01 am to cwill
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he safe was going to be opened. The owner has no cause of action.
You really don't get it do you?
It's like some of were raised in North Korea.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:02 am to Diamondawg
Their choice was to make the feds open it on their own.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:04 am to Crimson Wraith
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Never go with the electronic locks.
This, all my safes have S&G dial locks.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:10 am to Don Quixote
Will never buy their safes.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:14 am to AyyyBaw
quote:Same with the bank?
Their choice was to make the feds open it on their own.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:22 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:Yeah, be mad at the judge who authorized it. Can yo imagine if "it is in my safe and you cant get it nana nana boo boo" was a valid response
If they had a valid warrant liberty safes saved the guy from having his safe destroyed by the FBI.
Them telling the FBI to pound sand wouldn’t have mattered, the FBI would have still gotten in the safe.
This is not a Liberty problem. As you stated, they could have just taken the safe out and cracked it open with a crowbar in about 5 minutes.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:29 am to HubbaBubba
You fricking sky screamers.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:31 am to Don Quixote
quote:And if you have a search warrant issued for your home, you better remember the combination or watch em get in it on their own.
This, all my safes have S&G dial lock
Should we just zip tie our drawers closed and expect them to not cut em open?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Well, not really. Change the "master" code. Problem solved.
This is beside the point. Liberty should not have given Merrick Garland's Brown Shirts access to that safe even if they had a backdoor access code.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:40 am to tigerfoot
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And if you have a search warrant issued for your home, you better remember the combination or watch em get in it on their own.
That is not the point here. Damn.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:47 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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This is beside the point.
It really isn't. The point made was that the customer had no way to control the outcome. That isn't true, unless you have information not yet made available.
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Liberty should not have given Merrick Garland's Brown Shirts access to that safe even if they had a backdoor access code.
What was in the warrant?
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