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re: Liberty Safes is getting the Bud Light treatment big time

Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:17 am to
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1303 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:17 am to
one you make, with a padlock, and well hidden,

even most padlocks have a master key, though

so nothing is actually secure, nothing
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 8:18 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:20 am to
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Up to the point that Liberty provided the access code to the FBI...


Well, not really. Change the "master" code. Problem solved.

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I am not certain if an owner can easily change the access code to the safe...


Unless it's wildly different from the Steelwater I had, it's probably in the manual and on YouTube. It takes a couple minutes.

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This is why all mine are mechanical dials... Never trusted the digital crap...


Absolutely.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:22 am to
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No he did not. That's the whole point. Once Liberty gave the Gestapo the codes, he lost "complete control over who accessed that safe."


I think a lot of you are biting on some incorrect information in the OP. I've seen nothing to suggest that he couldn't change the "master" code on his safe.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:25 am to
And that is how Liberty died.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
95272 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:26 am to
Liberty is currently getting blasted on IG for this

"Did you guys really narc to the feds? There's no way you call yourselves liberty and then bend the knee to another corrupted three letter agency"

"Maybe you should change your name to tyranny"

"'Always protected' unless the feds ask us for your safe code"

"I will never buy your safe. Thanks for showing your true colors. Enjoy going bankrupt"
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15619 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:27 am to
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We regularly update our policies to ensure both compliance with federal and state law and reasonable consumer privacy protections within the law.


What they're not saying is they were required to install the backdoor code, just like everyone else.

"reasonable consumer privacy protections" - not what this is about.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:27 am to
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What they're not saying is they were required to install the backdoor code, just like everyone else.


Do you have a link for that?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25588 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:37 am to
frick anyone that thinks this is ok.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37786 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:46 am to
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Why would you want a safe that a manufacturer has made where the manufacturer keeps a backdoor code that violates your privacy? If the feds want in, make them earn it, even if it destroys the safe.

What if you lose, forget or something else happens to your combination? I have a Liberty and am comfortable with their having a way to help me get in and reset things. I am not sure what their choices are in a warrant situation. Isn't a bank compelled to release bank records if presented a warrant?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40910 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:01 am to
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he safe was going to be opened. The owner has no cause of action.


You really don't get it do you?

It's like some of were raised in North Korea.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1225 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:02 am to
Their choice was to make the feds open it on their own.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4733 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:04 am to
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Never go with the electronic locks.


This, all my safes have S&G dial locks.
Posted by WestBay
Member since Jul 2023
363 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:10 am to
Will never buy their safes.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37786 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:14 am to
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Their choice was to make the feds open it on their own.


Same with the bank?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61157 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:22 am to
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If they had a valid warrant liberty safes saved the guy from having his safe destroyed by the FBI.

Them telling the FBI to pound sand wouldn’t have mattered, the FBI would have still gotten in the safe.


Yeah, be mad at the judge who authorized it. Can yo imagine if "it is in my safe and you cant get it nana nana boo boo" was a valid response

This is not a Liberty problem. As you stated, they could have just taken the safe out and cracked it open with a crowbar in about 5 minutes.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:29 am to
You fricking sky screamers.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61157 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:31 am to
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This, all my safes have S&G dial lock
And if you have a search warrant issued for your home, you better remember the combination or watch em get in it on their own.

Should we just zip tie our drawers closed and expect them to not cut em open?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63187 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:35 am to
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Well, not really. Change the "master" code. Problem solved.



This is beside the point. Liberty should not have given Merrick Garland's Brown Shirts access to that safe even if they had a backdoor access code.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4050 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:40 am to
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And if you have a search warrant issued for your home, you better remember the combination or watch em get in it on their own.


That is not the point here. Damn.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:47 am to
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This is beside the point.


It really isn't. The point made was that the customer had no way to control the outcome. That isn't true, unless you have information not yet made available.

quote:

Liberty should not have given Merrick Garland's Brown Shirts access to that safe even if they had a backdoor access code.


What was in the warrant?
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