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Posted by DelU249
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Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:53 pm to
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I started a thread maybe 2.5 weeks ago about my source and vin Weber. Why would I lie?


I remember. It was last Thursday, the night before the Russian indictments dropped.

Vin does have Gazprom listed on his lobbying resume.
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:54 pm to
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So, why did Trump hire those two guys?


To round up the delegates at the convention and Flynn to run a sting operation. He may be back in the WH after it's all said and done.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:55 pm to
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if everyone just said this and only this to rex

Would never happen.

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I wonder how insane that would drive him?


It's neither clever nor funny, so I don't know why anybody would originate it in the first place.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:58 pm to
Oh wow more charges against Manafort now.

Someone is doing work.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:59 pm to
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Wonder what that 2013 meeting on Ukraine was about. Attended by Manafort, Dana Rohrabacher and Vin Weber.


Van Der Zwaan was questioned and lied in relation to his work on the Tymoshenko white paper. Lots of things in the case seem to be focusing on Ukraine.
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Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 3:59 pm to
If he just keeps indicting these two over and over and over you will get trump!


Hahahahaha

We love our selective prosecution don’t we?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:01 pm to
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the Russia investigation (all times local):

4:40 p.m.

Special counsel Robert Mueller is accusing President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman of secretly paying former European politicians to lobby on behalf of Ukraine.

The new allegation against Paul Manafort comes in a newly unsealed indictment made public Friday. The indictment followed a guilty plea by Manafort’s longtime business associate, Rick Gates.

The indictment accuses Manafort of paying the former politicians, informally known as the “Hapsburg group,” to appear to be “independent” analysts when in fact they were paid lobbyists. Some of the covert lobbying took place in the U.S.

The indictment says the group was managed by a former European chancellor. Court papers accuse Manafort of using offshore accounts to pay the group more than 2 million euros.


LINK
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:06 pm to
Wow.

And The Hapsburgs? Didn't figure we'd bust anybody for colluding with the Holy Roman Empire.
Posted by indianswim
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:07 pm to
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it's like that time in high school I played van halen's panama for 2 straight days to see if my roommate would snap



You got that from an episode of The Drew Carey Show.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:38 pm to
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Lots of things in the case seem to be focusing on Ukraine.
And here I didn't even know that Ukraine tried to get Trump elected.

Nor did I know that Mueller was appointed to investigate Ukrainian elections.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:49 pm to
Ukraine under Yanukovych was a Russian satellite in a roughly analogous way to Eastern Bloc nations during the Cold War (in fact Yanukovych fled to Moscow for sanctuary and is still there). This latest indictment isn't about Ukrainian elections. It's about unregistered foreign lobbying of the US Congress on behalf of a foreign government. We'll see over time how Van Der Zwaan and this meeting regarding Ukraine that Gates lied about plays in, though. Mueller should double back to the election attack before long.
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Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:52 pm to
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the Russia investigation (all times local)


Yet, once again, NOTHING about Russia.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:53 pm to
Manafort was working for the Podestas when he was working in the Ukraine. Podesta was the head of the DNC. The same DNC that colluded with the Ukraine to defeat Trump by spreading false propaganda.


Yes yes. It all leads to trump and Russia.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:56 pm to
Ok, Bonds. Tony isn't John and neither were with the DNC. Ukraine didn't hack or use active measures against our election or solicit cooperation with Americans, and I haven't heard any leaks about Podesta involvement in awhile but let's all be on the lookout.
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Posted by DelU249
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Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:01 pm to
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This latest indictment..... It's about unregistered foreign lobbying the US on behalf of a foreign government.
Huh?? Are there some words missing in your sentence?

Be specific: Who was lobbying whom on behalf of which foreign government?
Posted by Humanelement
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:11 pm to
You and Gates have a lot in common. Both cock gobbling fricks who don’t have a fricking clue about what you are running your mouth about. You don’t know shite and there still is no evidence of Russian collusion from Trumps campaigne.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 7:03 pm to
Heh. You’re right. That wasn’t fully clear.

Manafort was directing the lobbying of several former European leaders he paid to lobby the US Congress on behalf of the Yanukovich regime (but concealing this, making them seem unconnected to Ukraine).
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 7:05 pm
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