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re: MAGA is dead, stick a fork in it. Has been successfully co-opted
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
JD is Peter Thiel’s cuck. I don’t like all.
That being said I’ll vote for him over Newsome, but damn I’ll feel dirty afterwards
That being said I’ll vote for him over Newsome, but damn I’ll feel dirty afterwards
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:37 am to goldennugget
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There is nothing America First anymore about this administration or MAGA.
Sure dummy. The tariffs are intended to help other nations. And making the NATO countries pay their fair share of defense is intended to help the Russians? Bombing those Venezuelan boats is being done to help China. Oh, and cheap power and gasoline? Those are deep state ploys to make the UK great again.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Conservatives want less central planning, not more like you folks do.
Yeah and conservatives are losers that never achieve what they want
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:42 am to scottydoesntknow
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We need industrious individuals in this country to have reasonable access to capital.
We have this, in spades! We have a remarkable private equity and venture capital industry - the best the world has ever seen. You make some great points in your post, but you missed badly on this.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:43 am to EphesianArmor
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:43 am to 844_Tiger
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JD is Peter Thiel’s cuck
and trump isnt?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:44 am to scottydoesntknow
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Yeah and conservatives are losers
Spoken like a true progressive.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:47 am to goldennugget
quote:There never was.
There is nothing America First anymore about this administration or MAGA.
quote:I've posted the exact same.
The idea was to co opt MAGA from the inside and purge the actual America First populists and steer the GOP back to endless wars and only caring about crony capitalist corporate donors
quote:In other words, business as usual.
They will throw the base a bone about transgenders or opposing woke DEI while selling out the country
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its the most perfect explanation of the Trump personality cult Ive ever read.
Prior to that point, most posters here agreed with me on virtually every topic.
Different universe. Pre-magic spell.
Back in 2015-2016 Trump and his shtick was suspect to say the least. Every normal person was compelled to support him -- especially once the Controllers ran Cruella de Ville against him. All bets were off and you HAD to back our savior (AND believe his "kitchen-sink" promise campaign - soon to be broken once the mask came off.)
It's almost as if by design
that the overlords ran THE worst possible cartoon candidates possible against Trump all three elections. That only solidified the psychological commitment to him, guaranteeing the loyalists would back any position -- no matter how questionable or nonsensical.Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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quote: Yeah and conservatives are losers Spoken like a true progressive.
Maybe logical, responsible people can try co opting progressivism instead of conservatism since they actually win and get things done
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:01 am to Errerrerrwere
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The problem with trying to put all the Trump supporters under one tent that is brainwashed is the system made them this way.
True. We are all subject to the constant psyops, gaslighting and institutional steering of opinion. Dontcha know our political set of rules of "game players" can ONLY be Red Team vs Blue Team illusion?
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Ever since 2016 it's been Orange Man Bad. So, you literally made this.
I really resent the designated blackwashing phrases ("Orange Man Bad", "TDS" ) designed as policy-defense to minimize and marginalize legit criticisms. It's intellectually lazy. But it's the first (and only) default position of many cultists.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:02 am to EphesianArmor
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Back in 2015-2016 Trump and his shtick was suspect to say the least. Every normal person was compelled to support him -- especially once the Controllers ran Cruella de Ville against him. All bets were off and you HAD to back our savior (AND believe his "kitchen-sink" promise campaign - soon to be broken once the mask came off.)
There’s a tendency to gloss over (if not outright ignore) the years that led up to 2016.
1996 - Bob Dole
2000 - W Bush
2004 - W Bush
2008 - John McCain
2012 - Mitt Romney
2016 - Was shaping up to be yet another Bush (Jeb!)
The GOP wasn’t exactly tearing it up and offering a “true conservative” vision and path to excite and energize the base in all the years prior to Trump coming down the escalator.
If the GOP base had been happy and pleased with the direction of the country under Republican leadership, there’d have never been a practical chance or an opening for a Donald Trump.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:02 am to scottydoesntknow
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Maybe logical, responsible people can try co opting progressivism
Thats all anyone needs to know about you. A progressive, hates conservatism.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:04 am to EphesianArmor
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I really resent the designated blackwashing phrases ("Orange Man Bad", "TDS" ) designed as policy-defense to minimize and marginalize legit criticisms. It's intellectually lazy. But it's the first (and only) default position of many cultists.
But you can't blame people for rabid defense of Trump when 90% of the bullshite being spewed is false.
Hence, "you got him now"
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:06 am to goldennugget
It was all so simple when President Obama was in office
(No sarcasm)
(No sarcasm)
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:06 am to Errerrerrwere
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But you can't blame people for rabid defense of Trump when 90% of the bullshite being spewed is false.
Trying to make current MAGA as anything close to "America First" is worth kickback.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:09 am to goldennugget
Maybe all the fricking weirdos will congregate in this thread and leave the rest o9f the board clear for a couple of hours.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:12 am to Great Plains Drifter
Accurate. The Bush v Clinton part II was just a stick in the eye to average Jane and joe and too much. Populism? You bet your arse populism.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
Who is your ideal candidate? AOC or Newsome?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:17 am to scottydoesntknow
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I can subscribe to people behind the scenes with lots of power. I can subscribe to theories...if they pass simple logic. Trump would have never given up his life he had before to just follow orders. Your theory is illogical.
I thoroughly understand your position and perspective.
Is it THE "reality"? Logic or Theory?:
IS Trump really calling all the shots? Or making any of the big decisions independently of The Overlords? Tangential possibility: What does it mean about his actual "authority" if he, Potato, the Kenyan, Dubya, Bubba were the "President" of a "US corporation"?) Don't corporations have a "Board of Directors"?
This world's pyramid of power and control, and their agenda supersedes all. (Look into UN Agenda 2030)
They NEVER yield power and leave control to mere chance or "nationalistic tendency". Or to any illusion we've all had that nations, states, parties and leaders are independent of an international un-elected cartel.
"Il-logical paranoia"? Or something to consider?
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