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re: Man, I am disappointed in Health Care Professionals
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:32 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:32 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
quote:Instead of mRNA to construct s-protein in response to vaccination, J&J uses DNA to construct s-protein. Instead of a lipid shell, J&J uses a disabled Adenovirus. Both stimulate construction of s-protein
Instead of using mRNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions.
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:34 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Oh, I see. I haven't seen that either. My apologies.
No apology needed.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:41 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
From Moderna's wiki:
I don't want Moderna manipulating my cells.
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Moderna's vaccine platform inserts synthetic nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) into human cells using a coating of lipid nanoparticles. This mRNA then reprograms the cells to prompt immune responses.
I don't want Moderna manipulating my cells.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:49 am to NC_Tigah
Mrna are supposed to be cheaper too, right? Is that why Pfizer's is 3x J&J?
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:10 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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If only doctors and nurses had the intelligence, awareness, and critical thinking skills of your average TD poliboard poster, this world would be a much better place.
Holding your profession up to a standard of the average participant on an internet message board is not the most clever argument for how "special" MDs are. The fact is that the vast majority of truly bright people choose careers outside of the medical industry. That's simple math. Get over yourself.
I think a lot of really good doctors have been let down the last 18 months by the organizations recognized as speaking for them. But that's a real thing, and it's going to have real implications going forward. No doubt the profession has been tarnished by all the political bullshite surrounding CV19. I don't see how someone could argue that's not deserved.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:11 pm to RiverCityTider
What a great OP.
I used to have an implicit in doctors. No longer. Something is really amiss with our doctors
I used to have an implicit in doctors. No longer. Something is really amiss with our doctors
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:24 pm to RiverCityTider
I’ve been saying the same. They are doing the dirty work for big pharm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:39 pm to Evolved Simian
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Yep, antivaxxers are all low IQ brainwashed sheep. It's pathetic, honestly.
Nobody on here questions their decision to get it more than this guy. It’s amazing.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:43 pm to thetempleowl
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think they are shilling for Big Pharma and the New World Order.
Are you a moron?
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And I mean Doctors and Nurses and Pharmacists and Hospital Administrators.
And I mean really, are you a moron?
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don't believe your avg. Dr knows whether or not a vaccine is effective or safe.
I don't think that is the case. However, one could rest assured your average Dr knows more about vaccines than your average person.
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But they certainly claim to. Which makes them liars and shills for their Masters'.
It is amazing that every study demonstrates the efficacy of vaccines.
But some claim otherwise which makes them liars and sold for their masters.
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do not respect people who just parrot what they are told because it is good for their career.
I don't know a single doctor that does that.
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And your average nurse doesn't think for themselves, yet they are out there pushing for 100% vaccines.
So 98 percent of more of doctors and I'm guessing over 90 percent of Nurses are vaccinated. Their families are usually vaccinated as well. Yet these people are pushing a vaccine that they took on you because why exactly?
Could it be that they looked at the data and is beneficial?
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Hospital Administrators are withholding information and propogandizing at the instruction of higher ups.
Higher ups from where?
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All these people are pushing the entire population to get shots and then boosters, followed by more booster. And it's disgusting.
I am convinced that some people are just too stupid to get the vaccine. These stupid people after getting the vaccine are convinced they have now had their DNA altered, grown a tail, or are now a flesh eating zombie. Interestingly enough a simple dna test would demonstrate no change. And visual inspection would prove no task.
Well the flesh eating zombie just we gotta let go.
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haven't heard one doctor acknowledge that many vaccinated people are infectious.
Jesus, are you a moron? Even faucci, who is an idiot is saying that vaccinated can pass on the virus.
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You better look out for yourselves, because these people will not
Who needs doctors or Healthcare workers!I have Google!
Genius!
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And to those of you healthcare workers out there with your own mind and the ability to think critically, I salute and support you. But you only represent about 10% of your profession, so unfortunately your being made to look irresponsible as well
I'm backing your decision to be a moron.
You shouldn't have to take the vaccine if you don't want to get vaccinated.
However, by law, employers can mandate vaccines. They are free to mandate many things.
While I totally support your freedom to make stupid choices, I just don't think you should go around writing stupid things. You are basically running around saying in a moron, look at me. And then a vocal minority of this board will jump up and down and also look like morons.
And I also believe that you should be free to say whatever stupid thing you wish to say. Even though you have already said a great many indescribably stupid things, I support your right to say them.
And so that's where I'm at. You want to make dumb choices I support your right to do that. You want to say stupid things? I will support your right for that.
I just am not going to congratulate you for saying stupid things or making stupid choices.
You are a perfect example of what I am talking about. You berate people into an unwelcomed and dubious ongoing intervention, you support government leveraging corporate power against the people to force them to comply, and then you wish doom on those who resist.
And what's most pathetic about you is your probably not even a stakeholder in this push for corporate profits and centralized power. Your just a nobody in love with his own brilliance, which is all provided to you via daily CDC updates complements chief Nazi Health Minister Herr Fauci.
The chief tell of a basic lack of intelligence is a void of intellectual curiosity. You have no interest is the question why a population largely made up of people at near zero risk is being badgered into taking a vaccine that they do not need and that does not protect others. You don't even wonder why one group of infected individuals is cloistered and monitored, while the other group isn't even tested.
In short, your a dullard.
You are an imbecile and a pathetic conformist suffering a bad case of authority bias.
To me, you are like the ditzy blond newscaster, fresh out of communications school, dramatically reading the lines you are given. Everybody knows you don't think your yourself. You just read the BS given to you from above... and with such great feeling!
As far as health care? I wouldn't trust you with my kids pet hamster.
Regardless, I too share your first amendment rights. And I'll go further and say I hope your employer isn't allowed to shut you up or force health related decisions on you. But that's not likely, as I'm sure your in total lockstep with your employer being the conforming, yes man, arse kissing biotch that you are
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:47 pm to NC_Tigah
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What you mean to say ... CV19 vaccination doesn't keep every person receiving it from getting the virus, it doesn't keep every person receiving it from spreading the virus, and it seems some people are having adverse effects from the vaccines.
WHICH ALL = It doesn't make sense to take it with a 99.8% survival rate other than to line the pockets of Big Pharma.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:07 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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You can still overpay for the doctor's opinion if you want, but paying a doctor just to rewrite a prescription you already know you need is a waste of time and money.
You realize the doctor isn’t there for the times it’s straight forward. They are there for when it appears to most people to be X and it’s really Y.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:08 pm to Diamondawg
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I would say studies are mixed at best and that would leave the prescriber with risk if the patient suffered untoward events due to the drug.
I suspect this patient risk you speak of is conjured up by the medical profession for reasons other than concern for their patients health. Why is there not more Interest in use of therapeutics Including Ivermectin and HCQ? Many people have been helped by these drugs and I am not aware of anyone being injured much less killed by them. Why not try?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:08 pm to RiverCityTider
Cookie cutter Drs
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:34 pm to Kattail
quote:I said nothing about patient risk. I am speaking of the prescriber's risk or liability for going off label and possible cause for being hesitant to prescribe. I'm all for a double blind study of Ivermectin and HCQ but I don't know how you would design it giving someone a placebo vs the real thing if you were pretty sure it works. Be kind of hard to explain it to the placebo groups' family that mamaw died because she was in the placebo group.
I suspect this patient risk you speak of is conjured up by the medical profession for reasons other than concern for their patients health. Why is there not more Interest in use of therapeutics Including Ivermectin and HCQ? Many people have been helped by these drugs and I am not aware of anyone being injured much less killed by them. Why not try?
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:44 pm to Diamondawg
quote:Not when the alternative is "isolate from others, drink plenty of water, and get plenty of rest."
Be kind of hard to explain it to the placebo groups' family that mamaw died because she was in the placebo group.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:46 pm to Diamondawg
Isn’t prescribers risk = patient risk?
It’s just an excuse.
If I were sick and out of options I should not be denied the opportunity to TRY something else, would be glad to sign a waiver.
It’s just an excuse.
If I were sick and out of options I should not be denied the opportunity to TRY something else, would be glad to sign a waiver.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:49 pm to NC_Tigah
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Not when the alternative is "isolate from others, drink plenty of water, and get plenty of rest."
Exactly, and as in the case of my family member “take whatever makes you feel better”
WTH? In other words, “good luck, you’re on your own”
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:52 pm to Diamondawg
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Be kind of hard to explain it to the placebo groups' family that mamaw died because she was in the placebo group.
Kinda indicates an expectation of success don’t you think?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:39 pm to mightyMick
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See this all the time.
Perhaps because it is true.
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I think it's BS.
You are free to think what you want to think.
In fact you are free to even disagree with multiple courts who say that employers can do so.
These mandates are upheld by both republican and Democrat courts.
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I can't imagine an employee objecting to an employer vaccine mandate, but takes it anyway to save a 30 year career, wouldn't have grounds for a major lawsuit against the employer if they got complications from a vaccine.
If the employer mandates people actually show up to work and not work remotely and they get in a car accident, can they successfully win a lawsuit against the employer?
Of course they can sue. And they can sue for a lot. But they are not going to win.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:18 pm to RiverCityTider
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You are a perfect example of what I am talking about.
Jesus, you didn't have to quote the entire thing. You could have just used my name.
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You berate people into an unwelcomed and dubious ongoing intervention, you support government leveraging corporate power against the people to force them to comply, and then you wish doom on those who resist.
I literally do none of that.
I support your right to make stupid decisions. And I support your right to not work for an employer to mandate the vaccine. I furthermore don't personally like employer mandates personally. Yet I realize that legally, they are well within their rights to do so.
Are you a communist who wishes for the government to limit who employers can and cannot hire?
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And what's most pathetic about you is your probably not even a stakeholder in this push for corporate profits and centralized power.
Jesus, I'm busy now.
I can't talk to you any longer, I'm trying to move the suitcases of money from the drug companies...
Joking. I just want to give an alternate view of many stupid things that people think.
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Your just a nobody in love with his own brilliance,
Well, not to be mean, but in reality we are all kinda nobodies.
Ozmandias shows us that even the greatest of men who build the greatest empire are eventually lost to the ravages of time.
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chief tell of a basic lack of intelligence is a void of intellectual curiosity.
Actually a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...
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You have no interest is the question why a population largely made up of people at near zero risk is being badgered into taking a vaccine that they do not need and that does not protect others.
I am well aware that the risk of mortality for a healthy 20 year old person is in the order of 1 in 100,000.
But the risk of mortality from the vaccine is less.
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You don't even wonder why one group of infected individuals is cloistered and monitored, while the other group isn't even tested.
Actually everyone gets tested if they have symptoms of they wish to be tested.
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In short, your a dullard.
Actually all work and no play makes me pretty dull. But I'm starting a little vacation and some of my personality is starting to return. Thanks for asking.
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You are an imbecile and a pathetic conformist suffering a bad case of authority bias.
Actually I'm not. I'm a red as frick individual who wants a many other red as frick individuals to survive this thing because the left is stupid as frick.
I'm just trying to perhaps reach one or two of you guys to get the vaccine. Maybe not the healthy 20 year old. But maybe the healthy 40 year old who had 4 kids and it would be horrible if they died.
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To me, you are like the ditzy blond newscaster, fresh out of communications school, dramatically reading the lines you are given.
Absolutely not me. He'll you can look at my posts outside of vaccine threads and you can see that.
The fact that you and I probably agree on so many things outside of this thing would prove this statement is wrong.
Though I am blond, sort of.
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Everybody knows you don't think your yourself.
Again look at my posts and tell me if I follow the media given marching points?
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Regardless, I too share your first amendment rights.
So we agree! If I was a lockstep part of government overreach,I wouldn't feel this way.
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And I'll go further and say I hope your employer isn't allowed to shut you up or force health related decisions on you.
They were an early adopter.
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I'm sure your in total lockstep with your employer being the conforming, yes man, arse kissing biotch that you are
Well jeez,I was just starting to think you loved me...
Look, my opinion on the matter is I am against government mandates on vaccines.
I am also against government mandating employers force their employees to get vaccinated.
However, I believe employers should be able to hire and employ who they wish to employ.
While I may find the idea of an employer mandating vaccines as unpleasant, I understand that legally they have that right. And I believe that employers should be able to hire and employ the people they wish to employ.
Do you want the government to be even more involved in that process? I'm sure you don't do if you were to actually think about the implications of what you are saying would actually carry into other areas, you may actually agree with me.
You may disagree with the mandates, but you may actually agree with an employer setting conditions of employment.
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